FFXI Ultimate Collection for 360 "Out of Stock"?

[Gokuhan]

I purchased this from the SE store yesterday because the PS2/3 freezing issue has become unbearable for me. The site told me that the item was in stock and let me order it. I have received an email today telling me the item is back ordered and doesn't mention when it will come in.

I'm just curious if anyone else had this issue and never received their game. I'm worried the game may be perma-sold out and will not be replaced. Gamestop no longer carries the game and a new copy on Amazon is stupid expensive. What sucks is I already own a 360 copy but had to replace my system a while back and my copy won't even start up on a 2nd 360.

Thanks for any input from someone who has had this issue.

[Maacha]

You're probably better off getting the PC version, the 360 version has similar freezing issues as the PS2/3 does. Any PC less than 8 years old is able to play FFXI, and you can still use a controller since you're probably used to it (Logitech is what I use on PC).

It's entirely possible that the game is out of print for both consoles now, even if it's still listed on the SE website. Amazon.com lists the 360 version for over $100 from 3rd party sellers, and most other stores don't list it at all anymore.

edit: I tried putting the 360 version in my shopping cart on the SE site, and it says "Out of Stock"

[Alhanelem]

Get the PC version. Hook your PC up to your TV if you want the couch experience, and plug in an xbox controller if you want to use a controller.

[SpankWustler]

Your best bet is to pick up the PC version and whatever kind of controller you enjoy for it. I use a keyboard for FFXI, but Logitech makes several models that are basically a PS2/3 controller you won't need to dig up Chinese drivers for.

Any console version is probably more difficult to find than a forest fire at the North Pole, at this point.

[Rayik]

Is there another version of FFXI coming out? Before each 'collection" came out, the previous one would go out of print for a while. Maybe there's another super-mega collection coming out for 360. I really don't think they'd completely stop making discs permanently if the game is still accepting new accounts.

[Maacha]

The latest Ultimate Collection, the Abyssea edition, was PC download only. The didn't print ANY discs for it, not even in Japan as far as I can tell.

[BorkBorkBork]

Incoming Xbox 360 limitations

[Vivik]

I play on my PC and use a wireless xbox 360 controller. You should be able to pick up a wireless extender kit for your PC for about 20 bucks.

[Zumi]

Could buy it off amazon.com

[Gokuhan]

Thanks for the input everyone. I'm not sure my PC could play this well if at all. 1 is a refurbished office PC and the other, while new enough to run Vista, has no upgrades to the graphics card at all and I'd need a new power supply if I did what to upgrade my card. I tried playing a free to play MMO with a friend and even on the lowest settings it lagged so badly I couldn't play it.

Is there a test program still around for XI like they have/had for XIV? I'd want to know for sure if it would play before I throw money at it. :confused:

[Alhanelem]

Thanks for the input everyone. I'm not sure my PC could play this well if at all. 1 is a refurbished office PC and the other, while new enough to run Vista, has no upgrades to the graphics card at all and I'd need a new power supply if I did what to upgrade my card. I tried playing a free to play MMO with a friend and even on the lowest settings it lagged so badly I couldn't play it.

Is there a test program still around for XI like they have/had for XIV? I'd want to know for sure if it would play before I throw money at it. :confused:FFXI barely uses your graphics card at all. As long as you can launch the game, it will run fine.

[Tsuneo]

I used to run the game on a PC with a Pentium 4 and Intel Extreme Graphics. If my old PC could run the game, there's no reason any PC that isn't worse than that can't run it.

[Maacha]

The official benchmark program for FFXI: http://www.playonline.com/ff11eu/download/media/benchmark01.html

If a PC can run Windows Vista, which is a memory hog, I'm almost certain it could play FFXI. Even at base settings on a PC, it will look better than on PS2, and probably better than on a 360.

Minimum System Requirements

Operating System: Windows® XP/Vista/7
CPU: Intel® Pentium®III 800Mhz or faster
Memory: 128 MB RAM
Graphics Card: NVIDIA® GeForce™ series with 32 MB or ATI® RADEON™ 9000 series
Sound Card: DirectX®8.1 compatible sound card
Hard Drive Space: 9.5 GB free hard disk space
Other: Keyboard, mouse, DirectX8.1 (included with install disc)

[Gokuhan]

Thanks Maacha, I'm gonna DL it and see.

My specs:
Operating System: Windows® Vista
CPU: Intel® Pentium® Dual-Core E5200 @ 2.50GHz 2.50GHz
Memory: 3G RAM
Graphics Card: Unknown, factory standard. Windows Experience Index rates the comps Gaming Graphics at a low 3.2, while other areas are at 5ish.

The benchmark rated me at 3300 (Very Tough) for low res, 2400 (Even Match) for high res.

I think I'll give it a shot and hope for the best. Thanks for all the input!

[oliveira]

No matter what you do, your new copy won't start as well. It throws a "dirty disc" error but in fact the issue is the FFXI hard drive files which were SIGNED digitally for the old console and the new console can't read due to not having the console contents access key (which is unique per console).

Go to the dashboard and choose "CLEAR CACHE" then the XBOX360 dashboard will get rid of the whole FFXI install allowing you to reinstall on your new console.

Hope this works for you.

It's a little dumb that the PlayOnline viewer disc was programmed in a such way it cannot be started if you move the harddrive from a console to another, but that's how things go. Also that's why Microsoft added the FFXI files to the "CLEAR CACHE" file deletion list.

Otherwise you would need to full format your harddrive... :(

[Camiie]

Yeah that PC will be fine. You may not be able to turn up the settings to high, but it should run just fine. I'm sure you probably could find a video card that will run on your stock power supply. It wouldn't be a high-end card, but you don't need one for FFXI. It can't hurt to do some window shopping at least, but even without an upgrade you'll be able to play.

[Gokuhan]

No matter what you do, your new copy won't start as well. It throws a "dirty disc" error but in fact the issue is the FFXI hard drive files which were SIGNED digitally for the old console and the new console can't read due to not having the console contents access key (which is unique per console).

Go to the dashboard and choose "CLEAR CACHE" then the XBOX360 dashboard will get rid of the whole FFXI install allowing you to reinstall on your new console.

Hope this works for you.

It's a little dumb that the PlayOnline viewer disc was programmed in a such way it cannot be started if you move the harddrive from a console to another, but that's how things go. Also that's why Microsoft added the FFXI files to the "CLEAR CACHE" file deletion list.

Otherwise you would need to full format your harddrive... :(

I went to the "Clear System Cache" on the HD menu and tried again, I got the exact same error that the disc could not play and to try installing again (install of the disc via the Dashboard is not supported).

It isn't the same hard drive I used in the past. I upgraded from an old model to the newer black model, and transfered all game saves from the old HD to the new, and went through the proper license transfer procedures with MS to have the licenses on my new 360. When looking at the memory of the new HD, POL and FFXI are no where to be found.

[katz]

360 disk reading is lovely isnt it. i have the same problem sometimes. Basically one disk will stop reading. To change this I put in my other disk. I have an original game plus a WOG disk. If the WOG disk stops reading the original will read, if the original stops reading the WOG disk will read. Hopefully you have more than 1 disk to try.

[Gokuhan]

Never got the WotG for the 360, I played on PS2 primarily. It doesn't seem like a disc read error from the msg it gives.

I would try and call for support, bit I can already see SE telling me to call MS and MS telling me to call SE.

[katz]

Never got the WotG for the 360, I played on PS2 primarily. It doesn't seem like a disc read error from the msg it gives.

I would try and call for support, bit I can already see SE telling me to call MS and MS telling me to call SE.

Good luck with trying to call EU Se at the weekends....they closed.

[oliveira]

It isn't the same hard drive I used in the past. I upgraded from an old model to the newer black model, and transfered all game saves from the old HD to the new, and went through the proper license transfer procedures with MS to have the licenses on my new 360. When looking at the memory of the new HD, POL and FFXI are no where to be found.

The worst problem here is the fact that the XBOX tosses a generic "Dirty disc read error" message even when the problem has nothing to do with scratched disc or drive problems.

The POL/FFXI disc should install fine through the dashboard install function if the region of the console and disc matches but you shouldn't install it anyway because it will be kept spinning even if it's installed, meaning you're wasting harddrive space. Usually the XBOX spits the "Install of this disc is not supported" when the region mask mismatches.

The POL disc is programmed to only work on NTSC consoles made for USA and there's other kinds of NTSC consoles, like there's several types of asian consoles that are NTSC J yet SE can make a disc that will only boot on the console intended for the Japanese market ...

Since you changed your console and harddrive, it could be indeed a problem with the new console being unable to read the disc as it happened with my Lost Odyssey game when I changed the console.

The new halo reach edition XBOX360s I bought can't read my Lost Odyssey discs while the old one can read it fine. Too bad the old one is a 2006 console which has gone "flaky" last december, hence me replacing it ...

Hopefully you will get your stuff working. :)

[Gokuhan]

I think I'll just end up getting the ultimate edition for PC off of Steam and hope for the best. This is why cartridges are a superior form of media. :P

[Atomic_Skull]

FFXI barely uses your graphics card at all. As long as you can launch the game, it will run fine.

Once just to see what would happen I ran FFXI on the GMA integrated graphics on my old Core 2 quad (instead of the HD4870) and it ran at about 5-8fps.