Version Update coming soon?

[Heabea]

I'm wondering if everything is on time for the version update, not sure if we are still getting it in september, just news about it died down over the last 2weeks alot, wondering if there's a bug or something slowing down the development?

[Korpg]

Apparently the update is going to happen on September 19th.

[Byrth]

It's going to happen on the 19th (this coming Monday). The lack of update notes is somewhat worrisome, and makes me think that ToAU will not be getting the promised re-work this update.

[Leonlionheart]

It's going to happen on the 19th (this coming Monday). The lack of update notes is somewhat worrisome, and makes me think that ToAU will not be getting the promised re-work this update.

I don't remember hearing anything about a promised rework.

Not that it wouldn't be 100% welcome in my book

Edit: I do remember the pandemonium warden pop item drop rate being increased now that i think about it

[Darkwizardzin]

If I remember right I think they said on the 19th.. so 5 days from now. Don't hold me to that date tho.

[Aldersyde]

It's going to happen on the 19th (this coming Monday). The lack of update notes is somewhat worrisome, and makes me think that ToAU will not be getting the promised re-work this update.

Unless they do a rapid fire on the update notes in the next three days, the update looks positively anemic. I was looking forward to having friends come back to do salvage too. Sigh, maybe in another five months...

[noodles355]

I'm not sure about a general rework, but they did say they were going to have salvage gear augmented like sky gear sometime soon. I hope it's this update but I'm not holding my breath.

[Byrth]

Some comments they made earlier this year were along the lines of, "We're going to re-work RotZ this update, and next version update we're going to re-work ToAU." It looks like it was either mistranslated or hasn't happened.

[Gokku]

i hope they dont do it sky style i want strait+1 with static gear my good luck with augments wont last forever.

[Symbiote]

You guys keep saying the 19th. Can this be confirmed? Link to a post they made or something?

[Rearden]

The ex items threads originally had a date, but this one claims it will go live on the 20th so they will have to update prior to that:
http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics/ff11us/detail/7125/detail.html

[Modoru]

The one he's referring to:


In conjunction with the version update scheduled for Sep. 19, 2011, the stackable numbers for the following items have been increased from 12 to 99.

During the maintenance operation to implement this change, the listing of these items in auction houses will be restricted between Sep. 16, 2011 1:00 (PDT) and Sep. 19, 2011 12:00 (PDT). These restrictions will not affect the bidding process or interfere with the removal of items that have already been listed. The ability to check a listed item’s “Sales Status” will also still be possible.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause and thank you for your understanding.
Source: Click~ (http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/polnews/news21030.shtml)

[Twille]

i hope this update includes the level cap increase....been waiting for that for a while. would be nice to tag 95 :)

[Leonlionheart]

i hope this update includes the level cap increase....been waiting for that for a while. would be nice to tag 95 :)

this is worthy of facepalm

[SpankWustler]

i hope this update includes the level cap increase....been waiting for that for a while. would be nice to tag 95 :)

Sorry to inform you of this, but the update on the 19th will actually lower the level cap back to 85. The development team works in mysterious ways.

[Vold]

Sorry to inform you of this, but the update on the 19th will actually lower the level cap back to 85. The development team works in mysterious ways.SE got tired of THIII trait being overpowered.

[Leonlionheart]

The ex items threads originally had a date, but this one claims it will go live on the 20th so they will have to update prior to that:
http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics/ff11us/detail/7125/detail.html

Pretty certain this just means that event will start on the 20th

[Alhanelem]

It's going to happen on the 19th (this coming Monday). The lack of update notes is somewhat worrisome, and makes me think that ToAU will not be getting the promised re-work this update.
Update notes don't come before the update, except for the small teasers we usually get beforehand. However, I believe there is a post somewhere with the test server contents which is more or less what will be in the update.

The update does include lv95 cap, all of the spells and job abilities previously mentioned in staff posts, the new voidwatch content, the walk of echoes revamp, dreamworld dynamis revamp, maps in dynamis, and random other little stuff.

ah, here we go. Read the threads here (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/forums/83-Testing-in-Progress) for stuff that's supposed to be in the next update.

[Gokku]

those are what most people refer to as update notes , and thats also byrths point thats alot less then normal. esp for a "Major" update.

[Alhanelem]

There isn't really "a lot less than normal." there's tons of information in those posts.

Posts with little splash pictures on the official website may be lacking, but since they just link to the forums now, which already has plenty of information, I don't really think it's a big deal. Just my opinion.

[Symbiote]

The one he's referring to:

Source: Click~ (http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/polnews/news21030.shtml)
Thank you.


i hope this update includes the level cap increase....been waiting for that for a while. would be nice to tag 95 :)
Not sure if srs.

[Vold]

It's going down this Monday http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/polnews/news21043.shtml

1:30 downtime what? Thanks test server, I guess? :confused:

[Byrth]

Looking at this (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/4937-The-FINAL-FANTASY-XI-roadmap-for-the-twelve-month-period-commencing-April-2011), they're actually giving us what they promised.

[Buffy]

I think the length of the update (90 minutes) shows us how little new content this update will contain.

[Alkimi]

Wouldn't worry, 90 minutes is probably optimistic. Can't remember the last time the servers were actually back up on time following a major update or taken back down an hour later due to game breaking bugs (99,999 cures etc.)

[SpankWustler]

I think the length of the update shows undaunted and undying optimism on the part of SE's staff. "There won't be an extension THIS time, in spite of what has happened nine out of ten times, no sir!"

[Aver]

Wouldn't worry, 90 minutes is probably optimistic. Can't remember the last time the servers were actually back up on time following a major update or taken back down an hour later due to game breaking bugs (99,999 cures etc.)

Maybe they'll break blu this time around so I can hit up some 99,999 heavy strikes.

[scaevola]

Looking at this (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/4937-The-FINAL-FANTASY-XI-roadmap-for-the-twelve-month-period-commencing-April-2011), they're actually giving us what they promised.

B..but daily rewards!

Daddy needs his Argent Tournament!

[Elexia]

I think the length of the update (90 minutes) shows us how little new content this update will contain.

Or they ironed out last minute testing due to their test server and don't need extra time to make sure stuff wor- nah can't bring logic in here almost made a fool of myself D:

[Alhanelem]

I think the length of the update (90 minutes) shows us how little new content this update will contain.
The time the servers are down has absolutely zero to do with the contents of the update. Both on the server and on the client, its just a software patch. The reason maintenance usually take hours is because of the work they do that is not related to a patch of the game.

Why are people talking as if we don't know what's in the patch anyway? Anyone on the test server will know most of it, and the threads in the testing-in-progress section of the forums cover most of it.

[hiko]

Why are people talking as if we don't know what's in the patch anyway? Anyone on the test server will know most of it, and the threads in the testing-in-progress section of the forums cover most of it.

because only threads posted in september are stack/delivrary item.
we were used to get teaser the 2-3 weeks before VU.

[Kimble]

They said it would change once the test server went live. We had been getting updates in the actual forums usually every day (not as much in the last few though)

[Staren]

Looking at this (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/4937-The-FINAL-FANTASY-XI-roadmap-for-the-twelve-month-period-commencing-April-2011), they're actually giving us what they promised.

Not sure if troll. There's at least 4-5 items on there we still haven't received updates on.

[Byrth]

It looks like they're missing "Daily Reward System" and "Synthesis: Skill cap adjustment," which might have been scrapped thanks to people being 'tards.

Other things that they haven't specifically mentioned but are minor enough that they could throw it in at the last moment:
* New summonable NPC areas (where can we not summon them? Abyssea?)
* Quest reward tweaks

Keep in mind that some of the "adjustments" listed under September in that timeline may have actually happened in August. Losing out on an earth crystal per day in my d-box and people losing a skill cap adjustment for us isn't really that much of a loss. They're hitting all the major points.

[Nynja]

Theres probably some details they're keeping hush hush till the servers go down because of possible economical ramifications...stop whining till you get all the notes.

[Korpg]

Theres probably some details they're keeping hush hush till the servers go down because of possible economical ramifications...stop whining till you get all the notes.

What do you speculate will happen that will cause possible economical ramifications?

Something short of bringing the level cap all the way back to 75, I can't imagine anything that would constitute a "mass quitting" of the players.

[Gokulo]

Something short of bringing the level cap all the way back to 75, I can't imagine anything that would constitute a "mass quitting" of the players.

Who's talking about players quitting. The situations with geodes right now is a small scale example. Because people know they will need 40 of them for the new Magian Trials they are buying them out like crazy and the prices are rising.

[Byrth]

If SE suddenly announced that they were raising the caps on sub-crafts to 80, people would not buy any of the few things that are still T0, for instance. I don't expect to find out about craft limit increases until the day of the patch.

[Korpg]

Who's talking about players quitting. The situations with geodes right now is a small scale example. Because people know they will need 40 of them for the new Magian Trials they are buying them out like crazy and the prices are rising.

I guess I misunderstood what Nynja meant when he said "economical ramifications."

I took that to mean real money issued by players to Square Enix, not the economic situation on the game.

I apologize.

[Alhanelem]

because only threads posted in september are stack/delivery item.
we were used to get teaser the 2-3 weeks before VU. This time, you got it months in advance. You should be happy you found out so soon, instead of complaining that you didn't find out in the week before release!

Just because the information wasn't posted yesterday doesn't mean it's not relevant.

[Nynja]

I guess I misunderstood what Nynja meant when he said "economical ramifications."

I took that to mean real money issued by players to Square Enix, not the economic situation on the game.

I apologize.

This is why you're mocked...

You want some examples of economical ramifications?
1+2-as mentioned: geodes and crafting lvl caps
3-Details on Salvage changes, could cause the price of the upgrade mats to skyrocket again
etc etc etc
4-old change, but an example nonetheless, Thief's Knife change, caused the price to plummet from 25 mil down to 100k.

[Korpg]

This is why you're mocked...

You want some examples of economical ramifications?
1+2-as mentioned: geodes and crafting lvl caps
3-Details on Salvage changes, could cause the price of the upgrade mats to skyrocket again
etc etc etc
4-old change, but an example nonetheless, Thief's Knife change, caused the price to plummet from 25 mil down to 100k.

Oh, so you think that supply and demand is a bad thing. Because, that is what is happening, and what will happen, and what is going to happen forever.

[Leonlionheart]

It happens now or after the update, who cares

Edit: @Nynja

[Nynja]

Its mentioned in the patch notes when the servers go down so certain people dont get an advange over others. Go check the notes for the TK and the teasers leading to it, there was no mention of TK being changed at all.

[noodles355]

What do you speculate will happen that will cause possible economical ramifications?Salvage augments giving people a reason to do salvage again and making the gear worthwhile again could easilly hike the prices or Ori Ingots, Imp Wootz Ingots, Bloodwood Lumber, Marid Hides, Wamoura Cloths and Imperial Gold Pieces.
Certain new gear depending on ease of obtaining will make other bought/rafted gear obsolete. For example, Dusk Gloves + and Dusk Ledelsens +1 are required (1 of the 2 for Rdm and both for cor) to cap Haste, however in the dats there are pieces of gear that replace both of these and cap haste for both jobs. Dusk+1 Hands and feet currently hover around 1mil and 800k. Those could plumit depending on the ease of which the new items are obtained.

I know taking a moment to actually ponder matters is challening for the average brain, korpg, but I would suggest giving it a go. Maybe it will lead to you not being ridiculed in 95% of the topics you post in.
Would you like me to provide sources for my data btw? Sadly I can not. Deers ate it all, mistaking it for crackers.

[Korpg]

Salvage augments giving people a reason to do salvage again and making the gear worthwhile again could easilly hike the prices or Ori Ingots, Imp Wootz Ingots, Bloodwood Lumber, Marid Hides, Wamoura Cloths and Imperial Gold Pieces.
Certain new gear depending on ease of obtaining will make other bought/rafted gear obsolete. For example, Dusk Gloves + and Dusk Ledelsens +1 are required (1 of the 2 for Rdm and both for cor) to cap Haste, however in the dats there are pieces of gear that replace both of these and cap haste for both jobs. Dusk+1 Hands and feet currently hover around 1mil and 800k. Those could plumit depending on the ease of which the new items are obtained.

Even though I misunderstood the post and corrected it, I knew all of that already. I even stated supply/demand computations (well, I referenced it, but you get the point).


I know taking a moment to actually ponder matters is challening for the average brain, korpg, but I would suggest giving it a go. Maybe it will lead to you not being ridiculed in 95% of the topics you post in.

You know, you should finish reading the thread before posting something that has since been corrected. Might keep your foot out of your mouth.


Would you like me to provide sources for my data btw? Sadly I can not. Deers ate it all, mistaking it for crackers.

Yay, another personal attack. You just love to do that, don't you?

[noodles355]

Yay, another personal attack. You just love to do that, don't you?Only against people who don't realise 90% of everyone disagrees with everything they say, can't take a hint that they're not wanted and need to be bullied off a forum.

[Korpg]

Only against people who don't realise 90% of everyone disagrees with everything they say, can't take a hint that they're not wanted and need to be bullied off a forum.

You expect people to agree with everything everyone says? If that was true, then the US government would be the most efficient government in the world. Which it is not, in case you haven't realized it yet.

[noodles355]

You expect people to agree with everything everyone says?I wish to edit my last post slightly:
Only against people who don't realise 90% of everyone disagrees with everything they say, are unable to read posts properly, can't take a hint that they're not wanted and need to be bullied off a forum.

[Modoru]

How about you keep it back on topic, and leave this lover's quarrel for another day?

[Urteil]

This cracker Meme you are all trying to invent is terrible.



Trying toooooooo hard.

[Alhanelem]

I wish to edit my last post slightly:
Only against people who don't realise 90% of everyone disagrees with everything they say, are unable to read posts properly, can't take a hint that they're not wanted and need to be bullied off a forum.
Nobody needs to be bullied off a forum and anyone who feel the need to bully anyone is the one who needs to leave. You cannot decide who everyone wants and doesn't want, nor can you do anything about it if you could. This is why the ignore list exists. If someone bothers you, you ignore list them. Just do it, instead of making a big production out of how much you hate somebody.

[Nynja]

Is that why you single-handedly got the thread for staff consolidation locked...and then the second one after you were explicitly told in OP to NOT post in that thread (which you did)?

[Alhanelem]

Is that why you single-handedly got the thread for staff consolidation locked...and then the second one after you were explicitly told in OP to NOT post in that thread (which you did)?
OPs don't make the rules. The people aggressively attacking me had just as much to do with theads getting locked.

It is in fact a rule that you cannot disallow specific people from participating (in fact, practically anything you can imagine is against the rules because they're so broad...). In the interest of being the better one, this is all I have to say on that subject. Use the ignore list and move on.

[Nynja]

So you were unwelcomed in a thread, yet you continued to post there, and wonder why you got attacked?

Care to quote this rule, about how "you cannot disallow specific people from participating"? I'm having problems locating the forum rules, ToS, whatever...help me out?

[Rearden]

There is one rule I found though, let me quote it:


* Posting that constitutes discrimination against another forum member or group (also including forming groups for the purpose of discrimination), insults, slander, libel, harassment of a group or individual.


I would consider anyone bashing members from other websites (websites which are the best obviously) to be in violation of this rule, and as such will have any post violating said rule report spammed and deleted. (Since that's all it takes)

[Babekeke]

Back on topic, much to the disappointment of all the trolls, I'm sure:

Thread (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/14995-EU-All-Worlds-Maintenance-%28Sep.-19%29)


[EU] All Worlds Maintenance (Sep. 19)

At the following time, we will be performing maintenance on FINAL FANTASY XI to accompany the version update. During this period, FINAL FANTASY XI will be unavailable.

We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause and thank you for your patience.

* This maintenance will be accompanied by a version update. After maintenance is complete, the update will automatically begin after you press the "Play" button. After that, please follow the instructions on the screen.

* The World Transfer Service will be unavailable starting 30 minutes before the maintenance. Please wait until after the maintenance is completed before attempting to use this service.

* You may receive errors such as "POL-1160" or "POL-0010" during the download process due to heavy server traffic. If you are unable to access the update, we ask that you please wait a while and then try again.

Thank you for your cooperation and understanding in making this a smooth version update.

* The details of the version update will be announced separately on Sep. 20, 2011.

[Date & Time]
Sep. 19, 2011 from 17:00 to 18:30 (GMT)
* The completion time may be subject to change.

[Affected Service]
- FINAL FANTASY XI

[Alhanelem]

Back on topic, much to the disappointment of all the trolls, I'm sure:In all actuality, in this case the effort is appriciated.

[Gokku]

this is really ... really late
http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/polnews/news21043.shtml
was posted on the 14th.

[Vold]

The time the servers are down has absolutely zero to do with the contents of the update. Both on the server and on the client, its just a software patch. The reason maintenance usually take hours is because of the work they do that is not related to a patch of the game.Really. So it's just a coincidence that after 9 years of several hours long updates that the test server comes online and suddenly we're looking at 1:30 downtime. Coincidences are funny like that. They pop up at the heckest of times. Makes people think. Forms conspiracy theories. All that good stuff.

[Alhanelem]

Really. So it's just a coincidence that after 9 years of several hours long updates that the test server comes online and suddenly we're looking at 1:30 downtime. Coincidences are funny like that. They pop up at the heckest of times. Makes people think. Forms conspiracy theories. All that good stuff.
Umm... what? If you're suggesting that the maintenance is shorter because they've been leveraging the test server to address issues and such, then I totally agree with what you're suggesting- No, it's not a coincedence that the maintenance is shorter because of hte existence of the test server.

What I'm trying to convey is that it's NOT anything to do with the amount of 'stuff' in the update. They have had maintenances of varying lengths of time regardless of how much new stuff is in a patch.
Perhaps we didn't understand each other?

[noodles355]

This cracker Meme you are all trying to invent is terrible.



Trying toooooooo hard.Who said anything about trying to invent a meme? I was just poking fun at korpg. Although truth be told, I don't remember why. Probably drunk. Sorry korpg. I'll try to lay off for a while.

[MDenham]

This cracker Meme you are all trying to invent is terrible.Should it be fed to deer who might mistake it for crackers?

[Selzak]

This is the first time in seven years that I can remember a version update falling on my birthday!

This better be the one to make DRK work!


I'm assuming that if there's anything in this update that we don't know about already, it's minor. I'm assuming this because getting hyped about FFXI is like, one of the most mood-risking actions that one can take.

[Leonlionheart]

I'm assuming that if there's anything in this update that we don't know about already, it's minor. I'm assuming this because getting hyped about FFXI is like, one of the most mood-risking actions that one can take.

gave me a good lol.

happy birthday tho

[Elexia]

The issue where the Abyssea - La Theine enemy Black Merino would spawn outside of its natural habitat.

I always found this one funny and hoped it was intentional..given you know, being a black sheep and all.

[Vortex]

I always found this one funny and hoped it was intentional..given you know, being a black sheep and all.

I think it is intentional and i found it to be in good taste that that "black sheep" was there in a crowd of white sheep.

[Twille]

Any info regarding the quest for Quicksand Caves?

[MDenham]

Any info regarding the quest for Quicksand Caves?Starting NPC should be by the Tele-Altep crystal (it's a Moblin).

You'll need a tremorstone (??? in Cloister of Tremors) and your choice of a meteorite (crawlers, W. Saruta, but only on the hill), a soil gem, or 12 soil geodes.

At least, that's what it was on the test server. It may have been modified somewhat.

[Alhanelem]

What do you get from this quest?

[SpankWustler]

What do you get from this quest?

A galka fat-suit that enables anyone of any race to open the Quicksand Caves weight doors alone. Fu manchu not included, sadly.

[Dallas]

I bet the update will be any day now.

[Alhanelem]

A galka fat-suit that enables anyone of any race to open the Quicksand Caves weight doors alone. Fu manchu not included, sadly.
Ah. Since Galka don't need this can they not do the quest? or does it have any other reward however trivial?