View Full Version : Elemental Celerity(BLM) & Rapture(SCH), but WHM... Left Behind?
Tsukino_Kaji
03-11-2011, 08:10 PM
Now I am away that whm can pile on more cure potentcy bonussess then anyone else and can out cure any job at the drop of a hat. But WHM also get's the short end of the stick in pretty much every job update and expansion ever.
These two are a simple illistration.
SCH.) Can add +50% to all thier cure spells, cast them for 50% less MP, cast them 50% faster and regain 1/6 charges every 20 seconds.
BLM.) Now has an inate fast cast for their work horse skill.
WHM.) ??? Divine Seal?
New gear that can't even complair to gear that's level 70 or less?
What WHM needs is it's own Celerity/Rapture. A job trait that gives you fast cast to your healing magic skill or an ammount of cure potentcy. And gear that can out do the stuff you can buy off of AH like everyone else gets.
Aaralyn
03-11-2011, 09:02 PM
We already have the best curing equipment available to us. What we got was Divine Benison and Divine Caress. Taking care of -na's is part of healing.
Naria
03-11-2011, 09:58 PM
This is what I use /sch for and fastcast atma/build. Also while we may not have a traits for fastcast besides divine benison we have a lot of gear for reducing casting time (af3 pants, cure clogs, Orison's locket, Incantor stone, that cure cast time -10% necklace who's name that I can not remember the name of, etc). As both a whm and a sch, I feel that whm is much better healer right now, which is as it should be.
Miiyo
03-12-2011, 05:53 AM
Cure potency can be capped in 4 pieces of gear. No need for an effect that adds to that. Since you have the ability to have 20mp/tick regen fast cast isn't all that necessary since you can spam heals and never run out. I /sch to spam aoe protects and shells (for other parties in an alliance), stoneskins, and you have your celerity. Whm is a perfect healing mage atm. Especially since you can divine caress in each -na macro. Cures give stoneskin. Ambition gives fast cast and 5mp/tick. What was it you were saying was missing again?
hideka
03-12-2011, 12:49 PM
We already have the best curing equipment available to us. What we got was Divine Benison and Divine Caress. Taking care of -na's is part of healing.
i agree with ara. if you wana cast your magic faster, sub scholar. whm can easily sit at CPT cap at all times. whm has divine benison which is a permanent enmity reduction to ALL spells and actions. whm is freaking BEAST atm. what whm DOES need however, is more loving to its DD side. more selection for DD gear, banish IV V, Banishga III IV V, HolyII, and a nifty little spell called
Repentance: deals light based damage, Lowers Enemy Critical hit rate, decreases casters enmity levels slightly. (generates no enmity towards targets aggressive towards the caster.)
2 second cast time, 50 MP, does about as much damage as a T2 nuke in mediocre gear, and as much as a T3.5 in pro gear. would be awesome way to drop hate off of a mob and deal some hate free damage, AND cut off a little damage from your tanks damage taken.
Alkimi
03-13-2011, 08:15 AM
Should just give us Ultima at 99.
But seriously, since WHM is still the only job that can cast Cure V it's bordering on essential for a lot of things. Dunno what you're on about with no new gear, Orison Pantaloons +2 are arguably the best empyrean armour any job got.
Nahal
03-14-2011, 09:42 AM
with relation to fastcast too: whm has 20% fastcast for cures in merits, plus 15% available from cure clogs (expensive but worthwhile) plus WHMs will sub rdm or sch, PLUS the cure cast time reduction that can be gotten from AF3 legs. personally as whm/rdm my cure cast time reduction (including fast cast) is like 63%
Neisan_Quetz
03-14-2011, 09:59 AM
Which is impossible with the 50% cap.
Rambus
03-14-2011, 04:19 PM
Now I am away that whm can pile on more cure potentcy bonussess then anyone else and can out cure any job at the drop of a hat. But WHM also get's the short end of the stick in pretty much every job update and expansion ever.
These two are a simple illistration.
SCH.) Can add +50% to all thier cure spells, cast them for 50% less MP, cast them 50% faster and regain 1/6 charges every 20 seconds.BLM.) Now has an inate fast cast for their work horse skill.
WHM.) ??? Divine Seal?
New gear that can't even complair to gear that's level 70 or less?
What WHM needs is it's own Celerity/Rapture. A job trait that gives you fast cast to your healing magic skill or an ammount of cure potentcy. And gear that can out do the stuff you can buy off of AH like everyone else gets.
can you explain the bold please? ether i am not understanding or it is a wrong statement.
and there is emp gear that makes Rapture +60%.
I think it was strange to give BLM Elemental Celerity, but since blm has that now, whm should get a trait with that effect on cures/ ( and i think there is a trait for that on nas now?) should work in erase/ esuna and on the recasts ( Divine benison) if it don't already ( i dont know i m not needed on whm a lot lately)
Nahal
03-15-2011, 06:14 AM
Which is impossible with the 50% cap.
its not impossible, i accept that 13% of it does nothing, but its still all there. not like i lose anything by having it all on for starting to cast
Elemental cast times are long and there are much fewer options for Black Mages to bring this down. Divine Benison caps na spell cast reduction by default at level 90. Cure spell cast time can be reduced by 35% through Cure Clogs and merits, 12% by Orison Pantaloons +12%, then with Incantor Stone, Loquacious Earring, Orison's Locket and Royal Redingote you get 19% cast time reduction (34% if your /RDM) from Fast Cast. If you're SCH subjob, you get 10% from Light Arts. In either of these cases, you're cure cast time reduction will also be capped.
WHM gets Solace, SCH does not. You can also cap cure potency without any body piece and use Orison Bliault +2, but a more realistic number I would say is around cure potency +44% (thus Orison Bliault still wins.)
Other jobs don't even have Cure V either. So yeah, WHM is still aeons ahead of other healing jobs.