Blue Mage Hunting Grounds!

[Djinnrb]

Hi I saw this website off alla forum and I love it so much it has helped me so much that I want to help spread it out to other blue mages who might have not seen it before. I AM NOT THE CREATOR OF THIS WEBSITE!

I am quoting the original post here.

{Hello!}

My Name is Myriads, and I’m a rather quiet Beastmaster on the Phoenix Server who got the crazy idea into his head to solo Blue Mage from 1 to 75. I did. And on the way with help from lots of friends I learned all of my spells.

Like all of us here, finding where you need to go, and what sort of party and items you may need to hunt a specific monster, can take a lot of work. And it often costs precious exp also. I used a lot of online forums and sites to learn from. To me it was fun. But often information was hard to come by.

So I decided to create a website that would help other Blue Mages.

The project became “The Blue Mage Hunting Grounds. An illustrated guide to hunting Blue Magic Spells”

You can visit it here: http://173.192.108.24/~tforum/blu/BLUMain.html

I hope that it helps all of you. Please feel free to contact me with information or comments at the address that you can find on the guide.

{/salute} Myriads the Quiet Blue Mage

Dhragon brings up a good point...

It should be noted that there are times that the owner of this site will need to update his original post on Zam with the correct IP address for his site. His original post can be found here: http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.htm...933&howmany=50


So happy hunting all!

[lllen]

this is the site i lived by from lvl 1 blu.........its great

[Dhragon]

It should be noted that there are times that the owner of this site will need to update his original post on Zam with the correct IP address for his site. His original post can be found here: http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?fjob=16&mid=118412087755543933&howmany=50

[Djinnrb]

Yes I added that to the OP so hope u dont mind. I think it shoulda been mentioned.

[Effilil]

I LOVE that site...it's helped me get so many blu spells..I only lack a couple now because it can be tough to find people to help out with the harder to get spells (like body slam)

[Djinnrb]

Once FFXI comes back up and people start posting more and checking here I believe people are gonna love this thread. This website is my #1 goto website about blue spell hunting.

[kaht]

I LOVE that site...it's helped me get so many blu spells..I only lack a couple now because it can be tough to find people to help out with the harder to get spells (like body slam)

Just go solo it. I did it at 75, I'm sure you can do it at 90. Liberal use of sleep spells make them extremely manageable.

edit: I'm referring to the dahaks on mount z.

[nekrolemur]

This site is great, I still use it all the time. Sometimes there are easier ways of obtaining spells that the site doesn't mention though, especially when solo/duoing. Don't forget about equipping spells that increase the chance of the mob using the spell you're trying to learn, and ALWAYS have AF gloves on...gloves help considerably, but Blue Magic Skill is probably most important when trying to learn spells.

[Djinnrb]

what spells increase the chance of a mob using a certain spell by being equiped?

[nekrolemur]

Sorry, I was talking about Monster Correlation. Example: An Arcana spell equipped against an Undead monster increases chance of learning other arcana spells, etc.

[Djinnrb]

is that even true? this is the first time im hearing about something like that.

[Varchesis]

Hmmm... I've never tried Monster Correlation for spell learning. I usually have good luck stacking CHR. And yes, I understand it's my particular idiosyncrasy to believe CHR helps. Just seems to work lol

[Sekundes]

Blu skill and the AF hands are the only thing that improve chances unless someone has some significantly tested data that will indicate otherwise. Don't be a victim of the sharpshooter fallacy. Just because you try to learn a spell several times and then change something and learn it does not mean it was affected. Even 100 trials would not be enough to prove that setting certain spells or wearing any stat gear would help.

[Varchesis]

Blu skill and the AF hands are the only thing that improve chances unless someone has some significantly tested data that will indicate otherwise. Don't be a victim of the sharpshooter fallacy. Just because you try to learn a spell several times and then change something and learn it does not mean it was affected. Even 100 trials would not be enough to prove that setting certain spells or wearing any stat gear would help.

exactly :p

[Djinnrb]

I swear I use this site every day I play FFXI lol

[Djinnrb]

gonna go ahead and bump this because its worth it to anyone who hasnt seen it before.

[Defiledsickness]

i dont think monster correlation has anything to do with learning spells... i could be wrong. blue magic skill is your best bet and the AF1 gloves.

feeding the mob TP is the only way i know to 'encourage' it to use your spell.

[Raxiaz]

I have this site bookmarked and haven't used it in ages, but it's a pretty useful site for any up-and-coming BLUs.

[Myriads]

Wow. I'm touched that so many folks find the site useful. There are days when I have wondered if there was a reason to still keep it up. It was a hobby that got a bit out of control. I know that the advice is a bit conservative on a lot of spells, and given the massive changes in level cap, a lot of the advice is needing serious updating. (for example I'd love to change the 'can learn at' information from job level to exact BLU Magic level needed.) but time is a bit more dear these days.

Thanks for the kind words. I'll be active with the new spells in a few weeks.

Myriads (The quiet BLU)

[Alpheus]

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THANK YOU ^^

[Myriads]

Hello Folks,

I'm getting ready to start creating the pages for the nine new spells for the hunting grounds.

And I'm looking for a little bit of help information wise.

The first one is pretty simple. The new JA that lets us access the spells like Thunderbolt and Harden Shell, at what level do we get the JA? I ask because it will be the Spell level of these spells for functional purposes. I can't think of a better way to 'place' them.

Second, White Wind of course comes from NM Puks. I know there are a ton of such scattered about the Abby zones, but I also know that not all use the spell. I am pretty sure the Altepa one does, but do any of the others? If anyone has solid info on which use the spell I'd be very thankful.

Thoughts on Thunderbolt are welcome also. Nyzul being one of the best, but I'm sure other folks may have some ideas. I am unsure of how hard it is to get to the Limbus Behomoths in small groups, so info there is welcome.

I'll be doing my best to have the pages ready to go by update time, and your help is very welcome.

Myriads

[Tashan]

Second, White Wind of course comes from NM Puks. I know there are a ton of such scattered about the Abby zones, but I also know that not all use the spell. I am pretty sure the Altepa one does, but do any of the others? If anyone has solid info on which use the spell I'd be very thankful.


It's been stated that they will be adding more puks who can use White Wind in the update. May be best to wait til then,

[Myriads]

Sorry you don't like the hunting grounds Alpheus, but they are not for everyone. I know many BLU's feel I'm too conservative in my pages, and some like to work things out themselves.

I had not heard they were planning on more WW Puks. I'd still like to try and get things as ready as possible before release though. Any chance they have updated the test server with these yet?

[Prothscar]

There's some new puks in Bohyada but I don't know if they use WW. Seem like a safe bet atm.

[Myriads]

Prothscar, Ah that is good info. Perhaps someone will poke them and we'll see :)

Now if they only will add some Baby Behomoths like they did with the turtles!

[Alpheus]

Sorry you don't like the hunting grounds Alpheus, but they are not for everyone. I know many BLU's feel I'm too conservative in my pages, and some like to work things out themselves.

I had not heard they were planning on more WW Puks. I'd still like to try and get things as ready as possible before release though. Any chance they have updated the test server with these yet?

Actually i was gonna post how hadyaosh would be a viable way to learn thunderbolt but i then started to go into detailing how you'd need a brew on hand in case things went bad (since you are waiting for him to use thunderbolt and thus prolonging the fight which in general always invites more opportunities for things to not go your way) and two getting a popset for him which to me equated to being a dumb idea to suggest Hadyahosh to your list of viable Thunderbolt learning mobs.

I thought/think of it as a dumb idea because the optimal places and means to learn BLU spells was or at least to me was to minimize risk as well as minimize time investment and seeing as how learn rate is random farming a popset would increase time one would put in for a spell learning opportunity in addition to the nature of the mob being given the opportunity to go whole hog on you while you hope it next uses Thunderbolt since Hadyahosh isnt the kind of mob you want to TP feed it would increase the spell learning difficulty considerably and thusly thought that what i wanted to contribute to the thread would be a "dumb idea lol"

I was in no way commenting on Blue Mage Hunting Grounds website nor your upkeep of it. Its a valuable resource and i recognize it as such. I'm a bit surprised you would see my deletion comment as a snarky or snide remark on your website especially given that in the previous page i posted a big thank you towards you for making the site to begin with.

[Tashan]

If learning Thunderbolt took that much effort, I wouldn't even bother.

I'm somewhat hoping we learn them automatically or more mobs are added.

[Alpheus]

Exactly. To be honest I think ppl will approach it by hanging out by the pop site for NQ Behemoth in Behemoth's Dominion and try and catch it there when groups after a D.Ring or BB pop their Behemoth unless an Alliance of BLUs hunt down lolKaiser Behemoth in WotG areas.

Course this might just end up like Body Slam where you can opt to learn it via a WotG mission since i believe that Behemoth does do Thunderbolt

[SpankWustler]

My plan for learning Thunderbolt and Harden Shell: Go to the areas where those monsters are popped and wait. And wait. And wait. And wait. And wait.

I'm placing my bet on somebody wanting to pop a behemoth or a turtle and being not-entirely-appalled at the idea of inviting me before anything actually happens in my life to interrupt my waiting. I have dubbed this the "I am a fat loser and I play an MMORPG." plan for learning Blue Magic.

[Myriads]

Actually i was gonna post how hadyaosh would be a viable way to learn thunderbolt but i then started to go into detailing how you'd need a brew on hand in case things went bad (since you are waiting for him to use thunderbolt and thus prolonging the fight which in general always invites more opportunities for things to not go your way) and two getting a popset for him which to me equated to being a dumb idea to suggest Hadyahosh to your list of viable Thunderbolt learning mobs.

I'm sorry. I didn't recognize your comment as a deletion. I just thought it was a comment.... My very big bad. I shouldn't read stuff quickly late at night.

Yes, the idea is that the spell learning should be easy, efficient and safe. I've already got 5 of the 9 new spells up in the little section for new spells under the main page, and I tested all of them for doability.

I'm hoping the little turtles in A-Tarongi will provide harden shell. They use the move (I tested them) and are of the right mob class. We'll have to see if it works. I wonder if someone could hit the test server and try a learn off them and if it would work, rather then moogle the spell.... I'd do it myself, but I'm on a PS2 and unsure how well I could manage it.

As for Thunderbolt, I'm leaning toward Nyzal being the best current option for being able to do it on ones own time with some helpers. The low floor bosses can be farmed pretty simple by a good trio or more at 90.

I'm setting the spell level for Harden Shell and Thunderbolt at 95, based on thats then the JA opens up from all I can read. Seems reasonable.

All in all I'm having fun researching the spells again, which is one of the things I got out of the pages when I first started them.

[Alpheus]

No apologies necessary, one its the internet so tone is null and my comment didn't have much context to it either and two its the internet i shouldn't have taken it so seriously nor described it as if your response had me clutching my pearls.

So we're good ^^b

[Myriads]

New Pages are up. Most are in near final state. White Wind, Harden Shell, and Thunderbolt will need fleshing out based on what we find when we start trying to learn. Corrections will be made as fast as possible.

[Tashan]

Regarding White Wind:

I learned this with another 90 BLU in The Boyahda Tree. There is a safe camp at F-12 in a tunnel, rather than F-9. A Thunder Elemental can spawn in the tunnel at G-12, but it never came close enough to aggro; I assume its path is shared with the weaker crawlers that spawn that side of the tunnel.

Highly recommend a ranged attack to pull with as I'd have to sometimes pull at 24-25 yalms (max ranged distance) to make it safe.

The Puks are Incredibly Tough to a LV95, but 2 BLU's should be able to handle it without any issues. Use Huton:Ni to feed it 100TP and just fight it as normal. A LV90 Evasion build makes fights a lot easier.

[Tashan]

Btw the copyright line is more than 7 years old xD

[Alpheus]

Just learned Thunderbolt as a lvl 90 BLU. Merited Blue magic skill and AF1 body and hands from NQ behemoth pop

[Demonofhunger]

Regarding White Wind:

I learned this with another 90 BLU in The Boyahda Tree. There is a safe camp at F-12 in a tunnel, rather than F-9. A Thunder Elemental can spawn in the tunnel at G-12, but it never came close enough to aggro; I assume its path is shared with the weaker crawlers that spawn that side of the tunnel.

Highly recommend a ranged attack to pull with as I'd have to sometimes pull at 24-25 yalms (max ranged distance) to make it safe.

The Puks are Incredibly Tough to a LV95, but 2 BLU's should be able to handle it without any issues. Use Huton:Ni to feed it 100TP and just fight it as normal. A LV90 Evasion build makes fights a lot easier.

I learned there with three other BLUs and it was a pitched battle the whole time. The elemental magic-aggros and the puk tosses you around even if you have your back to a wall and this sometimes leads to aggroing the IT++ crawlers. Even pulling can get nasty since the mobs are so close to each other.

Of course, my experience might be different since I accidentally went /RDM and wasn't using my Eva gear because I wanted to stack the +skill, and even then I didn't learn after like ten tries. The JP BLUs I went with were doing the same, but they didn't even seem to use +skill gear.

[Tashan]

I think you may have been too deep in. Wind sheer was never enough to push anyone in to any aggro.

[Myriads]

Hello BLUs

Myriads the sleepy BLU awakes and brings good news. The Hunting grounds have been updated with the 13 new spells in readiness for the update! There are some hidden gems in there for learning some of the spells so enjoy!

As always glad that the pages have been helping folks.

http://173.192.108.24/~tforum/blu/BLUMain.html

[Boldheart]

Dude!!!!!... wow really haha. THis is true to the fact u cannot find a better spell guide than this. This guide saves alot of time and really helps the people in a bind. Nice find and post. I gave u Likey props haha.

[Komori]

Am I the only one who feels a little special that we actually get to talk to the guy who's helped out so many of us without realizing? You taking out time to provide the guide like this definitely rewards you with admiration from me.

[Draylo]

Great guide, just a suggestion though, the best camp for O counterstance (imo) is just off the recall-Jugner crystal. Plenty of orcs there you can take w/o aggro and fight near it.

[Myriads]

Draylo, you are 100% correct, I'll do an edit tomorrow to reflect the better camp for O. Counterstance. They use the move there quite a bit.

Has anyone seen Quadrastrike outside of Dynamis? Trying to get a confirm on a place or specific Kindred that likes to use it.

And thanks for the kind words folks. I'm no one special, though. I made the guide because when I was spell hunting I wanted something like it, and it became a hobby that got out of hand :)

[Draylo]

Theres an NM called Marquis Sabnock that does nothing but spam Quadrastrike:

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Marquis_Sabnock

Otherwise, I've tried the demons in Xarca(S) and have yet to see them do it.

[Draylo]

Also something most newer players may not be aware of, try not to rush down Khim or you break the wings which means it won't Tourbillion.

[Myriads]

Also something most newer players may not be aware of, try not to rush down Khim or you break the wings which means it won't Tourbillion.

Finding a Khim that most people can get to is a bigger problem >_< But this is very good advice.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Theres an NM called Marquis Sabnock that does nothing but spam Quadrastrike:

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Marquis_Sabnock

Otherwise, I've tried the demons in Xarca(S) and have yet to see them do it.What was teh name of that demon otw to Uleguerand? I could swear he uses it.

Edit: Wait no, he only dose souldrain. lol

[Tsukino_Kaji]

4 hours to get 1 orc to finaly use counter, didn't learn it. >.<

[ShadowHeart]

fantastic site been using it for ages!!!! i have passed this site on to so many people who were leveling blue thumbs up to him for making that site :)

[selond]

Alright after a few runs inside Nyzul isle there are few things that must be said.

1. Nyzul is hilariously easy atm. absolutely nothing should give you any trouble for any group of blue mages(besides the more accursed NMs and mobs. Soulflayers, chariots and archaic gears)
2. Cerberus, Hydra and Khimaria are extremely easy to accidently kill. So here are some rules to fighting each one of them

Cerberus: our lil hell hound has become a puppy. Cerberus will still only use Gates of hades around 50% hp. he WILL use but its not nearly as party wiping ass it used to be(only did 400 damage to me. worst part of gates is the burn effect so winds of promyvion it up). Fight him like any other mob you'd fight trying to learn a spell.

Hydra: Seems to be very reluctant to actually use Pyric Bulwark. He'll only use said move if his Right head(our left) is alive. Critical hits are what cut off the heads but they will grow back. other then that hes a wuss

Khimaria: Khim likes tourbillion ALOT however if you break either one of his wings he will NOT use tourbillion. Just like hydra, critical hits will break his wings but unlike hydra they will not grow back.

3. All 3 of them have regain. a fairly strong one to, so for khimi and hydra(Khimi espescially) Back tanking them is a good thing and they all have regen as well.

The rest of nyzul is still in place. you must get upto floor 100 from floor 96. last night I was in a group with 3 other JP Players and had lamps on all 3 attempts and still got to floor 100 with 15 to 20 mins to spare. so i expect a group of english players to do the same with ease. however just because your level 99 does not mean your a juggernaught. you should still bring a dusty Reraise scroll and probably a fanatics drink ATLEAST. Good luck happy hunting my fellow immortals.

[Defiledsickness]

What was teh name of that demon otw to Uleguerand? I could swear he uses it.

Edit: Wait no, he only dose souldrain. lol

the demons in Dynamis - Xarcabard all use it and fairly often. i learned it off the second demon i fought (can also learn thunder breath from the Bst demon's wyvern)