Blue mage new spell list not up to standard

[FANCY60]

this is not a thread to complain about things we like or hate about blue spells ppl its a discussion and should be treated as such. as far as im concerned spells listed post 75 dont stack up to previous spells yes Plenilune Embrace has nice healing capabilities but the after effects dont last long and could be improved, i have to admit Benthic Typhoon is a great phsical spell even I have to admit that lol as for charged whisker , its not that great. p/s after testing a few of the new 90-95 spells im not that impressed as i was pre 75 spells both phy/magical spells but this its my opinion. ppl please tell me what you think and issues you have found when testing the group of 90-95 spells. in a friendly many or forever hold your peace i want to learn and understand more what fans think not argue my case every five mins lmao its an opinion and can change with good feed back

[Daniel_Hatcher]

I like BLU but magical spells that match BLM would be bad as it's all BLM can do, whereas BLU can do so much more.

[Prothscar]

Where are you getting these old standards from?


Also, no.

[apostle]

Im new here but i would like to know will blu's one day learn a rerasie spell from the mobs in sea

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Im new here but i would like to know will blu's one day learn a rerasie spell from the mobs in sea

No current spell exists for Reraise, yes, they could modify one to have Reraise, but as the Sea monsters just naturally reraise they have no spell they could modify to it. They'd have to find another spell to do that.

Besides, I get the feeling like RDM they have no intentions of adding Reraise outside of a subjob.

[Prothscar]

Only thing we'd get close to reraise is something from Aerns, which is a passive trait not an ability. I can guarantee we won't get auto reraise either, so yeaaa, don't expect it.


Angel Whisper would be dope though. WANNA QQ ABOUT IT MAGES? COME AT ME BRO.

[Tashan]

Or you could just use an instant scroll of reraise.

Or apoc.

[Economizer]

I can guarantee we won't get auto reraise either, so yeaaa, don't expect it.

I can imagine Blue Mage getting an auto-reraise trait... that doesn't have a 100% proc rate.

[FANCY60]

Where are you getting these old standards from?


Also, no.

MAYBE i didnt specify what i want SE to improve, but before u jump in and critic i ment when was the last time blu had any good magic spells? i mean for dmg purposes. SE are adding spells like dark orb and mortal ray why? they dont do good enough dmg, not worth the mp and the traits the give are mediocre at best. ppl are still using spells from 3yrs ago seems like we are being starved of good phy/mag dmg dealing spells. this is what i mean. agree to disagree if u pls ppl but pls state which new spells u are intersted in compared to old skool ones like Bludgeon, Spinal Cleave, Frenetic Rip, Hysteric Barrage and Disseverment. which i still use thank you

[Covenant]

Blue magic nukes aren't meant to be overpowered. They are mostly meant to have multiple effects AND damage, such as Radiant Breath. The true "nukes" for blue are their extremely cheap physical spells and /JA bonuses.

I still look forward to 10k needles...hopefully for lvl 95~99.

[SpankWustler]

MAYBE i didnt specify what i want SE to improve, but before u jump in and critic i ment when was the last time blu had any good magic spells? i mean for dmg purposes. SE are adding spells like dark orb and mortal ray why? they dont do good enough dmg, not worth the mp and the traits the give are mediocre at best. ppl are still using spells from 3yrs ago seems like we are being starved of good phy/mag dmg dealing spells. this is what i mean. agree to disagree if u pls ppl but pls state which new spells u are intersted in compared to old skool ones like Bludgeon, Spinal Cleave, Frenetic Rip, Hysteric Barrage and Disseverment. which i still use thank you

I'm not sure if you mean new-new or just "above 75", so I'll just list every spell above 75 that really stands out.

Plenilune Embrace
Goblin Rush
Whirl of Rage
Benthic Typhoon
Quadratic Continuum
Occultation
Charged Whisker
Delta Thrust
Everyone's Grudge

And soon...

Sudden Lunge
White Wind
Heavy Strike, which is automatically a critical hit! It will actually damage stuff with more than 2 defense!

[Vicious]

I know it's only so good in Abyssea, but how can one really complain about this after Charged Whisker? It puts BLM to complete and utter shame.

[Tashan]

No it doesn't.

[Prothscar]

No it doesn't.

This, it really doesn't. Whisker Burning doesn't make a spell kick anyone's ass.

[FANCY60]

this is not a thread to complain about things we like or hate about blue spells ppl its a discussion and should be treated as such. as far as im concerned spells listed post 75 dont stack up to previous spells yes Plenilune Embrace has nice healing capabilities but the after effects dont last long and could be improved, but u make a good cause with Benthic Typhoon, great phsical spell even i have to admit that lol as for charged whisker im with prothscar and tashan its not that great. p/s after testing a few of the new 90-95 spells im not that impressed as i was pre 75 spells both phy/magical spells but this is my opinion. ppl please discuss issues your in a friendly many or forever hold your peace i want to learn and understand more what fans think not argue my case every five mins lmao

[Prothscar]

Animating Wail, Battery Charge, Goblin Rush, Vanity Dive, Magic Barrier, Whirl of Rage, Benthic Typhoon, Quad. Continuum, Dream Flower, Occultation, Charged Whisker (although not the way that was previously implied), Winds of Promy., Delta Thrust, Everyone's Grudge, Reaving Wind, Sudden Lunge, White Wind, Heavy Strike, and Dark Orb are awesome spells. I don't know what to tell you. :\

[SpankWustler]

this is not a thread to complain about things we like or hate about blue spells ppl its a discussion and should be treated as such. as far as im concerned spells listed post 75 dont stack up to previous spells yes Plenilune Embrace has nice healing capabilities but the after effects dont last long and could be improved, but u make a good cause with Benthic Typhoon, great phsical spell even i have to admit that lol as for charged whisker im with prothscar and tashan its not that great. p/s after testing a few of the new 90-95 spells im not that impressed as i was pre 75 spells both phy/magical spells but this is my opinion. ppl please discuss issues your in a friendly many or forever hold your peace i want to learn and understand more what fans think not argue my case every five mins lmao

You keep saying this over and over, but never really explain why the numbers are disappointing you or even provide what kind of numbers you expect.

I think that's why you're getting the kind of replies that you are getting.

[FANCY60]

generally list what u like about the new spells that are coming for blu lvl 90-95 and also what u dont like about it. ive gone on about that too much now this is not an attack on who is right or wrong please read and understand before u write anything

[SpankWustler]

generally list what u like about the new spells that are coming for blu lvl 90-95 and also what u dont like about it.

I like that Heavy Strike is an automatic critical. I like that it costs very little MP for what it does. I don't like that the "automatic critical" bit will probably be a one-off and never happen to a spell again.

I like that Dark Orb will use the same atma as Everyone's Grudge, so I can actually make a really decent nuking atma set now. I don't like that it's single target.

I like that Sudden Lunge does more damage than Headbutt, has better modifiers, and stuns for a longer duration. I don't like that all things grow old and die, and that I am among them. One day, I shall expire from this earth, and no longer be able to cast Sudden Lunge.

[FANCY60]

^^ i like the last quote lol awesome but seriously seems like SE actually understood my cries and posted this on main forum about new up coming spells

Based on feedback and Test Server results, some adjustments have been made to blue mage spells.
Lowered accuracy of Heavy Strike
The amount of MP consumed for Dark Orb has been reduced about 20%
For balance purposes, the intention is for Heavy Strike to be very powerful, but with a higher chance to miss. Dark Orb was adjusted to balance cost performance in comparison to other Blue Magic.

Please try these out on the Test Server and provide feedback.

This is a follow-up to the previous post about Sudden Lunge.

We will work on fixing skillchain not showing up visually and in the logs, when Sudden Lunge produces a skillchain. (This is just a visual bug, and the effects of skill chain are actually triggered.)

thats more like it im excited now

[SpankWustler]

^^ i like the last quote lol awesome but seriously seems like SE actually understood my cries and posted this on main forum about new up coming spells

Based on feedback and Test Server results, some adjustments have been made to blue mage spells.
Lowered accuracy of Heavy Strike
The amount of MP consumed for Dark Orb has been reduced about 20%
For balance purposes, the intention is for Heavy Strike to be very powerful, but with a higher chance to miss. Dark Orb was adjusted to balance cost performance in comparison to other Blue Magic.

Please try these out on the Test Server and provide feedback.

This is a follow-up to the previous post about Sudden Lunge.

We will work on fixing skillchain not showing up visually and in the logs, when Sudden Lunge produces a skillchain. (This is just a visual bug, and the effects of skill chain are actually triggered.)

thats more like it im excited now

Yeah, thanks to your efforts they lowered the accuracy of Heavy Strike two days ago. I'm guessing that English isn't your first language, huh?

[FANCY60]

MY post started 3 days ago if your going to diss get it right at least and for your information i am from croydon figure that out smarty pants p/s can threads be closed if so let me know how i came on to state my case and hear what ppl think bout updates no deal with arrogant/ ignorant kids

Yeah, thanks to your efforts they lowered the accuracy of Heavy Strike two days ago. I'm guessing that English isn't your first language, huh?

[Defiledsickness]

the reason you saw more difference in spells like Disseverment then now, is because back then you could use a cheap build (or af1) and do great dmg on blu. now you need armor to reflect the spells you cast. if you didnt notice our AF3 has 3 physical pieces and 2 magical pieces. use a MAB set for magical spells and they do more dmg (CW is awesome with the right setup and can do as much dmg as blm nukes. the difference is blu spells dont do less dmg based on the number of mobs). obviously blm is king of nuking but CW lets blu get into the mix.

Quad Cont. and Goblin Rush completely outdo the pre75 spells. Dark Orb makes Counter (SE said we get Counter2 btw) and is a nice spell to MB off of darkness Skillchains. Personally i prefer using physical spells to save inventory space. as said we just got Heavy Strike (which lets us fight the harder NM's without having to /thf or use breath spells).

i am less excited for 90-95 spells then i was for 75-90 spells, but please dont tell me you still use Frenetic Rip :P

[SpankWustler]

MY post started 3 days ago if your going to diss get it right at least and for your information i am from croydon figure that out smarty pants p/s can threads be closed if so let me know how i came on to state my case and hear what ppl think bout updates no deal with arrogant/ ignorant kids

Sorry, I didn't mean to insult you. I was just making a joke about how they LOWERED the accuracy of the spell when you complained new spells were too weak, and the question about English as a second language was actually serious.

It must be pretty awesome living in London.

[FANCY60]

yea its ok but expensive to live here its crazy and im sorry too for not expressing myself properly Spankwustler, i guess if i wanted answers i should have taking the time to be very specific about what i wanted to hear. its just like because someone does not like Quad Cont. (if compared to Frenetic Rip) this does not mean they r write or wrong is what im saying. test spells and figure out what u like express it or keep to yourself. ive been on this game since 2004 and have the 2 major blu weapons i.e tizona and almace so i do know my bluemage didnt think to specify what my intentions were was my mistake but you know what, this is much better and fun as i can work on and practise writing and creating emotions on paper. Thanks spank for the honest retort it was thoughtful. p/s u got it slightly wrong though ppl who speak english as their 1st language do not necessarily do it better that those who studied it or learn to speak it, im testament of that im from Sutton southeast ENGLAND and my husband is Nigerian and his english accent is better than mine because i dont think about it i alot of the local slang and do not bother to pronounce it properly where as he does lmao.