HOW can you let Paralyze CAN EAT A premieval Brew? 200000 cruor down the drain. TY

[Rah]

Are you kidding me, paralyzed, about to die, had a brew to save my life, but no. 200k cruor down the drain because para ate my brew. this is some bull. not even back in my temps, just gone. Complete gone, waste of 200k. that is really some bull. I understand that most items can be eaten by para. i accept this. but most items dont take 8 hours to farm. and can be made generally quickly. i mean really. BREWS shouldnt be affected by paralyze. IT COST TO DAMN MUCH. I would like to know what you SE are gonna do about it. cause this is beyond comical.

[Savannah]

Join the club. My hubby did this after he got his 200k brews....I did this a few weeks ago myself.

Yep....

[Dazusu]

All the more reason to be careful about when you use a Brew, and selective about it. Chalk it up to experience.

And on that note, if it takes 8 hours to farm 200K cruor - you're doing it wrong.

[brayen]

honestly this has been how para works forever, its ok to be mad that it happen but i don't think this is worth reporting as a bug. Like you said you were losing and you last ditch effort was to brew and it backfired, i don't think we need to start asking the developers to make us unstoppable even more then we already are (in abyssea anyways).

[Sylvane]

Like the previous poster stated, this is not an in game bug, this is how paralyze has always worked, and how it should work. You made a mistake, it happens. Now you know better. Don't blame the game mechanics for working correctly.

[Kari]

I've always thought that Paralyze shouldn't consume items.
Personally I'll be avoiding my brews when I'm paralyzed, but it would be nice to have this changed, even if it's just for brews.

[Maacha]

I've failed to find the update notice that said when they changed it, but paralyze used to be able to eat your 2 hour ability as well. It still eats other abilities and items, but the 2 hour was changed so that it wouldn't be lost due to para, only stopped and you could try again a few sec later. So, there is precedent for them changing the way paralyze works, it's possible they'll take pity on us and change it ^^;

[Kraggy]

I've always thought that Paralyze shouldn't consume items..
Totally agree, it's absurd, the debuff supposedly stopped you using the item in the first place so fair enough you didn't get the effect, but it's unrealistic that the item disappears: if you couldn't use it nothing about being paralyzed would mean the item got consumed.

I know it's always been like this, it's ALWAYS been a stupid aspect of this debuff.

[Rinkydink]

Why are you annoyed?! you're PARALYZED.. if your in abyssea you hsould be able to use catholicon then brew its not hard. the fact you had an idiot moment you think its a glitch?!

[Mirage]

How exactly does paralyze eat items anyway?

Imagine holding a bottle of soda, then imagine not being able to move for 5 seconds. Then poof, the soda is no longer in your hand!

If you lost your ability to grip things, why don't you lose your weapons, which are like 50 times heavier than most usable items.

It's almost as annoying as getting a paralyzed 2hour. Being unable to use the ability for like a percentage of its recast timer would have been better :(

[Cybernetic_Empire]

I've always considered Paralyze using up your consumable items to be a bug. Not sure if this thread should be the jumping off point to make that suggestion regarding all consumables or if a new thread should be made.

[Cream_Soda]

Are you kidding me, paralyzed, about to die, had a brew to save my life, but no. 200k cruor down the drain because para ate my brew. this is some bull. not even back in my temps, just gone. Complete gone, waste of 200k. that is really some bull. I understand that most items can be eaten by para. i accept this. but most items dont take 8 hours to farm. and can be made generally quickly. i mean really. BREWS shouldnt be affected by paralyze. IT COST TO DAMN MUCH. I would like to know what you SE are gonna do about it. cause this is beyond comical.
You should have just died then?

That's how para works. You messed up. Don't blame SE for your shortcomings.

Though, this did bring me laughter, so I thank you for that.

[Cream_Soda]

How exactly does paralyze eat items anyway?

Imagine holding a bottle of soda, then imagine not being able to move for 5 seconds. Then poof, the soda is no longer in your hand!

If you lost your ability to grip things, why don't you lose your weapons, which are like 50 times heavier than most usable items.

It's almost as annoying as getting a paralyzed 2hour. Being unable to use the ability for like a percentage of its recast timer would have been better :(
As you pull the item out of your pocket, the paralysis strikes. This item hits the ground and is forever lost!

[Treasurehider]

I've always been okay with the fact that paralyze consumes your items. Just takes a little effort put forth to realize that you're paralyzed and then restrict from using items. BUT I also have to admit that I have raged pretty badly when I'm paralyzed in the middle of the battle > run out of Shihei > Use toolbag and get the message, "lolplayer is paralyzed." :( /goodbye 99 Shihei. I can also understand this same rage with a brew.

Maybe being paralyzed should consume weapons too when you swing with them and you get para'd? "ApocolypsePlayer is paralyzed."? No? :( No fun. :(

[Skylark]

Really? Should have just taken the death, xp is hard bro.

[Qeepel]

Hi guys, thanks for the posts. Since this is more gameplay/feedback related, I'm going to move the thread over to feedback. On a second note, I've had that happen to me and hulked out a few times too ; ; Sorry to hear about your brew.

[Bojack]

Yea I agree with the 'Items shouldn't be consumed when you're paralyzed' argument. I'd prefer something like, a 5-10 second lock on being able to use an item rather than losing it. But I guess I can live with it, but certain things shouldn't be consumed like toolbags and brews.

[Cream_Soda]

Hi guys, thanks for the posts. Since this is more gameplay/feedback related, I'm going to move the thread over to feedback. On a second note, I've had that happen to me and hulked out a few times too ; ; Sorry to hear about your brew.
Qeepel!

Sorry I have nothing to contribute to this thread, I just wanted to say you're hands down my favorite GM. Thanks for all the issues you've helped me with in the past!

[Martel]

I had this happen to me on Azdaja. Started using brew, and between that start and it going off... he hit me, en-para'd me and I lost the brew... Talk about nasty timing. -_-

[cnedra]

Somehow i never experienced much nasty para's even with para on i was always able to remove it. But i must admit paralyze can be one of the most nasty status u can get. But i think only a handfull of nm's his paralyze sure is the worse u can get.

Sorry to hear u lost ur brew over it.

[Tenshibaby]

Guess someone is going for the teacher's pet award. Why take joy out of someone losing their brew? If other people's misfortunes bring you amusement, that speaks volumes of your character.

Also, stop defending the paralysis-causes-lost-items mechanic. It is not born from some idea that this should happen, but a by-product of poor programming designed to prevent item dupes.

Anyone remember Zelda from the NES, how Link switched sword hands depending on if he was going left or right? Nintendo explained this as Link was superstitious and wanted to keep his shield facing Death Mountain. Some of you undoubtedly believed them.

"Paralysis strikes you as you have the item out of your pocket"... give me a break. How come it never hits with the item still in your pocket or as you go down to reach it? And where is my pocket if I'm in a subligar?

[Arcon]

Check out this thread:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/1204-Paralyzed-while-using-ANY-Items-and-losing-them...Who-else-has-gotten-the-shaft

It's all been said before there. Also, OP never said it was a bug, he was just fed up, which he should be. I've wasted brews myself, namely when nothing dropped that I wanted. That certainly sucks, but it's ok, because sometimes you just don't get lucky. This is different though, on an entirely different scale.

Thread summary:
It's annoying, it makes no sense and it isn't always avoidable, please stop saying things like "Don't use stuff when paralyzed", that's both wrong and oh so extremely unhelpful. I've lost lots of stuff on paralyze that activated midcast (I'm looking at you, Hex Eye), toolbags, food, temp items, etc. So what, don't use any items at all when fighting mobs with a paralyze move? Because if you do and get paralyzed you deserved it and you're stupid? And there's plenty of other situations, outside of fights even when you're paralyzed and no cure for it is available. So what, just stand around and look stupid for several minutes just to wait for it to wear? Not to mention there's para which can last for ages.

It simply impairs gameplay, and then people come and tell you "That's a debuff, it's supposed to be annoying!" which is also wrong, it's supposed to be challenging, those are two different things. I don't mind dying while I'm terrorized, or have the mob run after the black mages or supporters, I don't mind weakness, sleep, amnesia, I accept all of those, even though they're just as or even more challenging (yes, even Sleepga, no one can tell me that Sleepga didn't ruin at least one zerg attempt for them, cause people forgot (or didn't bother with) poisons). But that's ok, cause that's how the game is supposed to work, people mess up, and it doesn't impair the gameplay, even amnesia, which is almost unremoveable (bar Ecphoria Ring). Paralyze however does, not only does it impair your ability to play in and outside of a battle (which is acceptable) but also punishes you for trying (which no other status effect does), by something not gameplay-related either, just by costing you potentially a lot of money/cruor/time (think Regain Feather.. I hope that doesn't ever happen to someone).

Tired of ranting about this, some things you can argue about, others you don't. I didn't hear any arguments against "fixing" this yet, just statements like "it's your own fault" or "don't use it", which are absurd. The only actual argument was that the dev team has better things to work on right now, and I agree, I'm not saying it should be right now, but fixing things is part of their job, and this isn't excluded from it. All I'm saying is that it would be nice if someone addressed this, sooner or later.

Edit:

And where is my pocket if I'm in a subligar?

Amen.

[Alhanelem]

HOW CAN YOU LET YOURSELF USE AN ITEM WHEN YOU'RE PARALYZED? /sorrycaps.

You'd think people would simply learn not to do it. Now, i'm not necessarily saying they shouldnt change this, but it's a known and established factor of the game that's easily avoidable if you're paying any attention at all.


It's annoying, it makes no sense and it isn't always avoidable, please stop saying things like "Don't use stuff when paralyzed"it IS always avoidable. You have a WHM on the ball removing it from you, or you try using status removal items first at least.

[Arcon]

it IS always avoidable. You have a WHM on the ball removing it from you, or you try using status removal items first at least.

You don't always have a WHM and what if other items don't help? Also, that is completely beside the point, just read the next line right after the one you quoted. I'm so tired of explaining this time and again.

[Alhanelem]

You don't always have a WHM and what if other items don't help?If you don't bring someone with status heals, then you're doing something wrong.

I don't know anything that can't be brewed down from full HP. If you're solo brewing, you shouldn't be paralyzed before the fight even started. If you have people for triggers, then you probably have someone who can cure statuses.

[Raesvelg]

As you pull the item out of your pocket, the paralysis strikes. This item hits the ground and is forever lost!

Dude.

5-second rule.

[Alhanelem]

Just FYI, I certainly wouldn't complain if they changed it, I just disagree with the argument that "it's not always avoitable." It IS always avoidable.

[Cream_Soda]

Don't use the item when you're paralyzed and it won't get eaten.

It is 100% avoidable.

[Arcon]

I think people are being intensionally dense now. Either that or they're trolling, which I suspect is the case with some of them..

[Alhanelem]

We're not trolling. There's simply no excuse for losing items to paralyze because all you have to do is see "oh, I'm paralyzed," and not use your item. Especially with a brew, better to die and reraise if the situation is so dire, than to risk losing a brew.

If they change this, they'll make a lot of people happy, for sure. It's just not real critical or important because it's an easy to avoid obstacle.

[Arcon]

Ok, I'll try to say this again, as slowly as I humanly can.. please try to follow, because I've said it ten times already and getting sick and tired of it.

I look at my status bar, I see no paralyze. So I feel somewhat safe and use a curry bun. Suddenly I see the mob using Hex Eye. I try to move but it's too late, I'm paralyzed and the item is gone. How was I able to prevent that? And you'd think that was a rare occurrence, but it's not, I've had this happen way too many times not to be annoyance. Fact is, sometimes it just can't be avoided, and it does happen.

So what's your advice? Never use items ever when fighting mobs who have a para move (and there's quite a few out there)? Because if I do I messed up and I was stupid to use it? How could I have possibly avoided that, even with a WHM army, 50 Remedies and my eyes staring at the status bar non-stop?

And no, I don't always have a WHM with me, cause I often solo stuff for quests, abyssites, skillups, trigger farming, etc. You call that doing it wrong? I'd say if you need a WHM for that, then you're doing something very wrong.

I've said this both in this thread and several times in the other. If you don't get it now, don't even bother responding, people who have a clue will know what I'm talking about anyway.

[Cream_Soda]

Fact is, sometimes it just can't be avoided, and it does happen.
it can be avoided.

If it's a mob w/ a para tp move, maybe use an item when it doesn't have TP?

[Zumi]

Its your own fault if you used a brew while paralyzed so quit your complaining.

It can be avoided 100% of the time if you are actually paying attention. So quit being bad at FFXI, then posting on forums to complain about your own mistakes.

[Fiarlia]

it can be avoided.

If it's a mob w/ a para tp move, maybe use an item when it doesn't have TP?

Yep, if it's a food item, hell, even a brew, you should be able to wait until right after it's TP'd if it has a Para move.

[Coops]

Anyone soloing anything that involves paralyze knows to have a couple of stacks of remedies on them. At least this used to be the case.

[Wheels]

Honestly with the amount of crour you can obtain in abyssea in 2 hours why even complain about 200k, i have lost many food, toolbags, temp items and abilities due to paralyze but it's all part of the game dynamics just gotta deal with it. It's not like you can't get another.

[Amerlyn]

I agree with both points. But lean a little more towards the OP. It would be nice if items didn't get "ate" during paralyze. But on the same note it is part of the game. If SE decides to "change" (not fix - b/c it isn't an issue, its intentional) this I'm sure no one would complain.

And something to note: This is a suggestion from another player. Its a nice suggestion. No need to bash a player for his/her suggestions. If you don't agree with the suggestion thats cool. Say you don't like the idea, just don't go on bashing someone b/c they are not as good as you are. Just b/c you have more skill than another player is no reason to bash them. It actually just gives you more reason to pass on ADVICE, and up to that player to take that advice and use it or not. So please don't bash them over a suggestion.

Also, honestly. How many of you people bashing the OP would complain if SE changed the way paralyze effected items? So lets just get back on topic. Agree if you like the idea, disagree if you don't and just let SE decide whether or not to change it.

[Alkalinehoe]

OP is mad Paralyze OM NOM NOM'd their brew.

[Heady]

I would like to know what you SE are gonna do about it. cause this is beyond comical.

Short answer, absolutely nothing. As stated many times this is how para works and always has. Really what do you want a "save" system so you can "reload" when ya mess up? Instant free "always on" RR3 and full health, Mp , and Tp on reraise? I myself don't think its a terrible penalty in a way helps balance game changing items. You took a gamble and lost deal with it.

[SheKicksHigh]

cry a river then go farm for an hour to get another brew what do you want the npc to just hand you a new one every hour so you dont have to work at all?

[Amerlyn]

Yer. I noticed. He/She could have posted the suggestion a little better. But doesn't mean the correct response is for people to bash on him/her. Two wrongs do not make a right.

I do believe the point the OP was trying to make as a SUGGESTION:

"Items shouldn't be 'ate' during paralyze (mainly brew)"

I for one think its a good idea. Its up to SE in the end though to decide if they want to do this, and up to us to help them in this decision.

[Dragen]

I learned the hard way not to use items when paralyzed. I ran out of shihei and used one of my stacked set to open for a fresh set of 99 shihei and had that eaten by the paralyze I was under. This and getting spell locked when drawing a weapon remain two of the VERY annoying quirks in FFXI gameplay that should have been fixed years ago but apparently are impossible to do. Paralyze has screwed up ability timers as well because of how it's coded.

[rog]

Don't use the item when you're paralyzed and it won't get eaten.

It is 100% avoidable.But dood, what if you get paralyzed while using it? It's more like 99.9% avoidable.

[Kailea_Nagisa]

why did you not have any remedy or other items on you to cure para? Somethign that costly, and you tried using it while under paralysis?...... not a smart move.

[Superchicken]

yes we all understand how para works, it takes consumables, but the argument people are making is that it don't make sense and when you think about it doesn't.

I'm para'd and cast a ninjutsu spell i loose my tool. Ok fine, still don't make sense though.

I'm para'd and meleeing and para interrupts my attack for that round it don't take my weapon away from me. This makes sense and should be the concept used with consumables.

I'm para'd and casting a nuke, whm spell, any magic other than ninjutsu, i'm simply interrupted by the para. Makes sense.

I'm para'd and silenced so i go to use an echo drop, WHOOPS bye bye echo drop, don't make sense, should just interrupt me from using it.

I'm para'd and try to use some food, bye bye food item, make sense? i don't think so.

I'm i complaining no, because i double check my status to make sure i'm not para'd when i do stuff like open shihei bags, use food, open arrow quivers, etc. But do i think the way para works makes sense, no. I'm i entitled to my opinion yes, so here it is! Is someone gonna flame my post saying i'm complaining and what not, of course they will even though i've already stated i'm aware of the system and i make sure i'm not para'd when i use items, doesn't mean we have to agree with it. And yes opinions are like you know whats and yes we all have them. /cheers

[Flunklesnarkin]

I'd love if they made paralyze not eat consumables..

Would support this idea 100%

Thread came off as a rant tho.. maybe should remake thread as a suggestion in the OP

[EagleCeres]

This is what I've been seeing in most of the posts that support the OP (and sorry for modification):


I'm complaining not because I have to double check my status to make sure I'm not para'd when I do stuff like open shihei bags, use food, open arrow quivers, etc.

I understand you do NOT want to lose the consumable item used when doing an action while paralyzed, granted, we all do not want to waste gil at any point in time... but the fact of the matter is that this is an in game mechanic, therefore this is WORKING AS DESIGNED.

Yes, there are chances (not necessarily small chances) that the paralysis effect will NOT process (ie: proc) and you will be able to do the action that you wanted to do (use items, attack, cast a spell, etc).

Heck I've lost count of how many medicines and other consumables I've lost when experiencing this same situation; but I don't complain, I just consider it an operation cost. I learned the risk of losing an item when paralyzed long ago... now I just hope the Para doesn't proc when I'm trying to heal myself.

Addendum:
I have played table top (pad and pencil + dice) RPG when my character was paralyzed and I tried to make an activity, I had to take a chance, knowing fully well, that my action may suffer a consequence/penalty... this was part of the rules.


I'm i entitled to my opinion yes, so here it is! Is someone gonna flame my post saying i'm complaining and what not, of course they will even though i've already stated i'm aware of the system and i make sure i'm not para'd when i use items, doesn't mean we have to agree with it. And yes opinions are like you know whats and yes we all have them

Thank you for your opinion...

[Topdogg]

Are you kidding me, paralyzed, about to die, had a brew to save my life, but no. 200k cruor down the drain because para ate my brew. this is some bull. not even back in my temps, just gone. Complete gone, waste of 200k. that is really some bull. I understand that most items can be eaten by para. i accept this. but most items dont take 8 hours to farm. and can be made generally quickly. i mean really. BREWS shouldnt be affected by paralyze. IT COST TO DAMN MUCH. I would like to know what you SE are gonna do about it. cause this is beyond comical.

I don't think they should change it. Penalties make the game fun. I remember when exp'ing was fun back when we lost 4k when we got KO'ed. Made us more alert of our situations and helped us concentrate on winning instead of now "oh well ill just die and try again". Penalties just make us better players. Check your status ailments next time you try to pop a brew.

[Superchicken]

This is what I've been seeing in most of the posts that support the OP (and sorry for modification):



I understand you do NOT want to lose the consumable item used when doing an action while paralyzed, granted, we all do not want to waste gil at any point in time... but the fact of the matter is that this is an in game mechanic, therefore this is WORKING AS DESIGNED.

Yes, there are chances (not necessarily small chances) that the paralysis effect will NOT process (ie: proc) and you will be able to do the action that you wanted to do (use items, attack, cast a spell, etc).

Heck I've lost count of how many medicines and other consumables I've lost when experiencing this same situation; but I don't complain, I just consider it an operation cost. I learned the risk of losing an item when paralyzed long ago... now I just hope the Para doesn't proc when I'm trying to heal myself.

Addendum:
I have played table top (pad and pencil + dice) RPG when my character was paralyzed and I tried to make an activity, I had to take a chance, knowing fully well, that my action may suffer a consequence/penalty... this was part of the rules.



Thank you for your opinion...

way to doctor my quote there in your post. If you are gonna quote me dont erase what i said and add other words to change what i said completely around. What i said was


I'm i complaining no, because i double check my status to make sure i'm not para'd when i do stuff like open shihei bags, use food, open arrow quivers, etc.

but way to change my post! to make it look completely opposite of what i stated. Two thumbs up

and for your statement of


I understand you do NOT want to lose the consumable item used when doing an action while paralyzed, granted, we all do not want to waste gil at any point in time... but the fact of the matter is that this is an in game mechanic, therefore this is WORKING AS DESIGNED.

Yes i know this, and as i said, I'm not complaining on how the game works but you wanted to change my post to make it look like i was. I'm simply saying it don't make sense, I'm fine with how it is now because like I said in my post not what you changed in my post, that i'm not complaining, because i check to see if i'm para'd or not before i use anything because I KNOW how the game works!

But again thank you for rearranging my comment to suit you so you can make a comment. /cheers

[Rambus]

I would not use a brew while Paralyzed I do know better since i been playing this game for what 7.5 ish years? late 2003- now

you can die and brew while weakened, hardly a difference, the only difference is while double weak. in that state you cant range attack/ range attack ws/ magic damage ( spells and ws).

In otherwords I would of died and got back up having some type of RR( alpoc atma is dencet DD atma too) then pop a brew.

[Runespider]

I've lost important cells in salvage (when it was first added) and the rage at the rest of my group taught me not to do it again, I haven't done it since which has been years. If you are going to brew in an emergency move >20 cause para will eat any item you try to use, if there is even a chance it can use a tp move that can para while you try to use do the same thing.

I do agree it's a bug though and should probably be fixed, there is no real sense in it from a gameplay standpoint.

[Skyrant_Kangaroomouse]

Are you kidding me, paralyzed, about to die, had a brew to save my life, but no. 200k cruor down the drain because para ate my brew. this is some bull. not even back in my temps, just gone. Complete gone, waste of 200k. that is really some bull. I understand that most items can be eaten by para. i accept this. but most items dont take 8 hours to farm. and can be made generally quickly. i mean really. BREWS shouldnt be affected by paralyze. IT COST TO DAMN MUCH. I would like to know what you SE are gonna do about it. cause this is beyond comical.


What did you expect to happen? Paralyze prevents you from taking ANY action, is that so hard to understand? This is knowledge as old as the game. You can't attack, cast spells or use items if paralyze triggers.

You must be one of those new players that power leveld his character in Abyssea in 2 weeks. Learn to play the game and stop bitching about a game mechanic that is as old as the game itself.

[SHARP-OAK]

I agree i think its fine not to be able to use an item , but to lose it is ridiculous.How did i lose it if i wasnt able to use it ? I think there should just be a time limit b4 you can try to use it again thats penalty enuf.

[Mirabelle]

No debuff should eat into your pocketbook. Bottom line.
While accidents are largely avoidable, they still happen. Humans make mistakes. In a game it shouldn't be so costly to make a simple mistake like not noticing you had para status before consuming a brew.
I'm fine with para blocking your ability to use an item, but the item shouldn't disappear. And I'm fine with blocking causing a cool down before re-use.
So I accept that the OP made a mistake he likely could have avoided but I also feel the punishment doesn't match the crime.

[Juri_Licious]

I wish someone could fix the title of this thread.

Engrish is Engrish.

[Alhanelem]

No debuff should eat into your pocketbook.Yes, they should. And they have, for 8 years. Silenced? Echo drops eat into your pocket book. Guess they should give them away for free then. Doomed? Dang, those holy waters sure screw you over. Oh yeah, those antidotes, we can't have those costing anything, even though they have for every final fantasy game ever created.

[Rambus]

No debuff should eat into your pocketbook. Bottom line.
While accidents are largely avoidable, they still happen. Humans make mistakes. In a game it shouldn't be so costly to make a simple mistake like not noticing you had para status before consuming a brew.
I'm fine with para blocking your ability to use an item, but the item shouldn't disappear. And I'm fine with blocking causing a cool down before re-use.
So I accept that the OP made a mistake he likely could have avoided but I also feel the punishment doesn't match the crime.

I see your point, at first i was thinking leave it as is but yeah I can see something like this being placed.

how do you feel about Paralyze eating 2 hr? or SCH Stratagems?

rambus uses light arts.
rambus hits addendum: white
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rambus is still unable to cast paralyna...

linkshell whipes*
linkshell > wtf rambus
rambus> sorry game hates me

*overdramazation to get a point across

[Superchicken]

I see your point, at first i was thinking leave it as is but yeah I can see something like this being placed.

how do you feel about Paralyze eating 2 hr? or SCH Stratagems?

rambus uses light arts.
rambus hits addendum: white
rambus is paralyzed
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rambus is still unable to cast paralyna...

linkshell whipes*
linkshell > wtf rambus
rambus> sorry game hates me

*overdramazation to get a point across

i'd say the game is working as inteded

Because here the para stopped you from using the ability but you can still try again when you timer is ready, the para didnt take away your ability permanently like it does an item, you just have to wait till your timer is up.

So i think what people are asking here is ok para can stop me from using my echo drop, my hold water, etc, but if it does, should it take the item away? or should i just suffer a timer penalty until i can try again. Yes we know that the game has always taken the item so people need to stop using that argument. The point is people are saying in a sense it doesn't really make sense in the terms of what paralyze does. Paralyze stops you from doing something. When you are paralyzed you cant perform an action, so really if you are paralyzed and try to use an item not only does it have the chance to stop you from peforming the action of using an item but now it also takes that item away. Yes its a game and blah blah blah. But lets apply the RL card here (yes i'm going there). I suffer a stroke and for a brief amount of time my left arm is paralyzed but x amount of time later i can move it again. The paralyzation from the stroke didn't take my arm away, it just stopped me from being able to use it for x amount of time.

Just because the game has always taken items when para procs on use doesn't mean it can't be changed. SE changes things in the game all the time. Remember the ranger nerf, remember when you could mediatate as /sam and get 100 tp and then they lowered it to 60 TP. Stuff can be changed.

[Miera]

This happened to an LS mate when we ran and did a Shimryu fight. we proced and was ready for the kill and as he clicked to brew Shinryu right as his TP move readied he got para'd and he lost his brew and we all died a horrible death.

[Alhanelem]

how do you feel about Paralyze eating 2 hr? or SCH Stratagems?It simply iullstrates one of the weaknesses of SCH. Some people call them broken, I think things like this contribute to balancing it.

[Flunklesnarkin]

I've spammed benediction before after getting hit with fulmination.. all you see is the screen filled with

"Flunklesnarkin is paralyzed" .. took like 15 tries to get it through lol

spam enter key goez xD

[Rambus]

you can retry 2 hr now? they change that?

[Andevom]

How exactly does paralyze eat items anyway?

Imagine holding a bottle of soda, then imagine not being able to move for 5 seconds. Then poof, the soda is no longer in your hand!

If you lost your ability to grip things, why don't you lose your weapons, which are like 50 times heavier than most usable items.

A weapon can easily sustain a drop to the ground.

A bottle of brew though, once you drop that, it breaks and spills all over the place.

Which begs the question...what if an ant colony sucks up the brew? The movie THEM comes to mind...

[Superchicken]

A weapon can easily sustain a drop to the ground.

A bottle of brew though, once you drop that, it breaks and spills all over the place.

Which begs the question...what if an ant colony sucks up the brew? The movie THEM comes to mind...

not if the brew was in a plastic bottle!

[ValronXI]

Why are you annoyed?! you're PARALYZED.. if your in abyssea you hsould be able to use catholicon then brew its not hard. the fact you had an idiot moment you think its a glitch?!

this made me lol &_&

[Yuriki]

If you're paralyzed, use an item, and it fails to activate, then you should not lose your item. If it was consumed then that means it was used correctly. If my cheeseburger failed to activate even though I ate it, would I still get fat?

[Rambus]

If you're paralyzed, use an item, and it fails to activate, then you should not lose your item. If it was consumed then that means it was used correctly. If my cheeseburger failed to activate even though I ate it, would I still get fat?

person eating the cheeseburger tries to eat it then paralyzed, the person can't move and drops it.

I would not eat it thus i do not get fat

[Zyeriis]

It's true that it's his own fault but, yeah, losing the item is a bit much. If you're paralyzed, you wouldn't be able to get the item out of your gobbie bag in the first place to drop it. Disclaimer: I repeat, I completely agree that it was the OP's own fault and that he should learn from it (by dying in the game).

[Tsukino_Kaji]

you can retry 2 hr now? they change that?You always could. And this is still all the fault of the person brewing while paralyzed.

[Rambus]

It's true that it's his own fault but, yeah, losing the item is a bit much. If you're paralyzed, you wouldn't be able to get the item out of your gobbie bag in the first place to drop it. Disclaimer: I repeat, I completely agree that it was the OP's own fault and that he should learn from it (by dying in the game).

yep just die and brew while weakend, just dont brew while double + weak where you depend on magic type or range damage.

otherwise its hardly a difference, lest it seems that way I do not think you get weaker ws numbers and so on, the buff is 999 all stats and 9999 hp no matter what you have.


You always could. And this is still all the fault of the person brewing while paralyzed.

hmm I remember a time where 2hr could get eaten, maybe I am mistaken.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

hmm I remember a time where 2hr could get eaten, maybe I am mistaken.It's all JA but your 2hr. I have lost many an echo drop and caltholican to para. lol

[DrDelicious]

para always used to piss me off on rng, i lost more than a few PPA's to para. 32k CP down the drain. but the new PPA dispenser belt fixed that. ill have to agree, para shouldnt eat an item, just stop you from useing it. but it doesnt, it eats it. always has, always will. it sucks for your loss, but its a story as old as the servers themselves.

[Nattack]

paralyna faster

[Zyeriis]

paralyna faster
Can't...paralyzed :P

[DrDelicious]

Can't...paralyzed :P

duobox a whm, problem solved

[Nattack]

i see paralyze proc on items visually as the player accidentally spills it all over themselves.
oops, i messed up

[Zyeriis]

i see paralyze proc on items visually as the player accidentally spills it all over themselves.
oops, i messed up

Still doesn't make sense, they'd be paralyzed, rather than have gone limp. If they're unable to move, then they wouldn't be able to drop said item anyway.

[Nattack]

are you really arguing this.

[Zyeriis]

are you really arguing this.

No, you're imagining things while paralyzed. Maybe you should drink a brew.

[Nattack]

brews cost too much in canada. all strange mixtures do.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

brews cost too much in canada. all strange mixtures do.Get them from florida like the rest of us.

[Glitch]

Though I agree that it's your own fault for trying to use a brew while paralyzed (sorry, I calls em like I sees em), I also agree 110% that it's retarded for an item to get consumed when it gets stopped by paralyze.

"What happened?"
"I raised the bottle to drink it and just as it was about to pour into my mouth Paralyze proc'd and it poured all over my face. Now I gotta go change my @#$%&* shirt!"

[Atomic646]

people who use anything rare/expensive while paralyzed, deserve what they get IMO lol

[Nattack]

Get them from florida like the rest of us.

1 drink per 3 year vacation is not my cup of tea. or beer, if need be.

[Cupofnoodles]

i love how ppl try to brew Rani and the brewer gets charmed