OK SE wth??? BST update

[Krysten]

WHY DO WE HAVE YET ANOTHER TIGER??

gosh give us stuff we havent had for awhile liek a High tier Antlion or some bigger mobs like krakens. id love to see Walking trees some biggr stuffd rather then the same type of mob over and over.

[Zatias]

The tiger is a smilodon. It gives Amnesia.

[Krysten]

didnt see that on the list just the normal tiger moves to me

also amnisea isnt on reg mobs only NM's

[Zatias]

Hmm really? Why would they make a smilodon without Disorienting Waul?

Hope it's a bug...

[Krysten]

its possible maybe thats one of that new 2hr JA the disspear thing

[Krysten]

id still love a Kraken!!! a charmable mob thats has yet to have a jug.

[Zatias]

Kraken would have been nice. Could see Cross-Attack being very damaging.

Though I did like that they were finally putting in a bird jug. Apkallu like I assumed lol.

[Krysten]

i only seen 2 atm and that the Slug and Simolian im sure theyll add more a new antlion woudl be nice too maybe one the blue ones lol.

[Krysten]

are orobons charmable i forget..... id love to see more larger mobs

[Zatias]

I don't believe they are. The only ones outside abyssea were NM's, and no mob can be charmed inside.

[Krysten]

the fished up ones were NM?

[Zatias]

Yeah. (http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Category:Orobon)

[Krysten]

WEll boo lol. was i only wehen they annunced the new JA "familar will use it then leave, like odin/alex" immiedatly thoguht of the old hats where you can call the BSTmen (orc/gob/yag) and thoguht hmmm maybe there givin us a bstmen pet haha.

[Zatias]

Well they are giving BST an Adamantoise. All those were previously NMs only so we'll see how it goes with the new jug pets XD

[Krysten]

AN ADMONTOISE? wherd you see this lol i want!

[Zatias]

Here you go lol~ (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/12293-Bst-Job-adjustment-manifesto-concerns-and-questions.?p=172898#post172898)

[Krysten]

ahhhh so will be the mini versions!

[Krysten]

i wnan walk around with a full size genbu tho :(

[Karbuncle]

I don't know the rage over Tiger :X almost every update so far has provided a new pet, and a few updated old ones. This update its a Tiger, and a Slug (possibly Apkallu/Adamantoise Later?)

Tiger was actually one of the best DD one back in the day (if it didnt cap so low :(), Aside from Antlion and Diremite. I have high hopes for the Tiger pet, They're usually quite powerful.

Though if they mess it up like they did the Raptor I'll be disappointed. Also would like to add I'm rather upset they left our Disorienting Waul... I mean, 3 Charges and a medium Duration wouldn't have been too broken, Considering I'm sure it'd be resisted on NMs.

[Krysten]

apkallu is kinda silly too but meh lol.

[Krysten]

what gets me is that colibri dont possess Mirror once charmed

[Aldersyde]

apkallu is kinda silly too but meh lol.

Penguin jug will be awesome if jug version of frigid shuffle is half as annoying as the mob version.

New tiger jug will be great if it out performs sheep jug on DD.

I still want a monkey before 99. HEAR US SE!!

[SpankWustler]

I'm very happy to see the tiger, seeing as Nursery Nazuna has already capped and Lucky Lavush may hit his level cap soon as well. I'd prefer a monkey, but that's how the proverb goes. "Everybody wants a monkey, but usually you get something else."

[Zhronne]

I'm very happy to see the tiger, seeing as Nursery Nazuna has already capped
Wait what?
Nursery Nazuna already capped? You mean it supposedly caps at level 80 and hence can't get past 90 even with group2 merits? :O
I didn't know that, thought they were all meant to cap at 99 :(

[SpankWustler]

For some reason, Nursery Nazuna hits a level cap at around 86 although other jug pets from the same level range keep going up. Nursery Nazuna works fine with Beast Affinity merits right now, but at 99 there will be a noticeable difference in it's performance.

Edit: I'm hoping this is because there are plans to add a Karakul jug pet eventually. Rage is an amazing ability for a jug pet.

[Zhronne]

Damn I really didn't know that.
Well yeah then, Nazuna will work fine for this patch but will fall behind in december/november when the level 99 cap patch comes out =/

[Retiti]

i want the penguin, just to run around and watch it waddle all over the place. simple things amuse me.

[SpankWustler]

Strike at it's eyes, my feathered minion!

Weeble waddle weeble waddle weeble waddle! WAAAKKK! BOINK! BOINK!

You have pleased me with this display.

[Zhronne]

Didn't they show, looong time ago, a BST with a Krabkatoa-like pet called with Call-beast? I'm pretty sure I remember this pic from a job update note on the POL website.
What happened to those pets? Maybe we'll have to wait 95>99.

I'm glad about all the attention they're giving to new jugs (hoping there will be new CHEAP jugs as well, just like the ones that got introduced at 80) and everything, altough at the same time it kinda pains me a bit to see the "new direction" they forced BST to go over the last years.
Was it really "necessary"? Was it the only way to allow the job to evolve and keep up with others?

I'm talking about "Charm". When the job was initially released and for several years after, "Charm" was the core mechanic on which the job was build upon. "Call Beast" was just an alternative to use in situations where charm wasn't possible.
Slowly things changed and over the last few years we kinda got things the other way around.
Charm is the alternative usually, while Call Beast is the core mechanic of the job and all the new cool stuff are focused and balanced around that idea.

I dunno, I really liked the Charm part. The risk of failure, the CHR and charm gear sets, the usefulness of Familiar with Charm, the use of other job abilities like Tame and more recently Feral Howl to save yourself from a mischarm. Just like I hated the randomness of charm even with 2000000 gear/chr :D
But all in all it was a style, a way of playing the job that I really liked and probably what got me into BST initially.
I'm not saying they should stop releasing Jugs since that's quite evidently the new way of playing BST they've been thinking of and since the majority of players seems to be liking it, but at the same time I'd really love to see them shed a lil bit of love on Charm once again.
Guess nobody shares my feelings? :'(

[Karbuncle]

Someone asked for pets with more unique looks like CourierCarrie, and i think they said "We're looking into that", They also mentioned maybe adding pets with Unique TP moves as well.

I.E giving us a Tiger with a unique TP move no other tigers get. something like that.

They probably scrapped those ideas though, since we haven't heard about them in so long.

[Malamasala]

Never understood why they had to cap. Well, I guess from an economic perspective you want the 50k jugs to be better than the 2k jugs, but it still is sad that your selection must suffer because someone wants to make a sim petting zoo.

[Crocker]

On the test server the new tiger sucks but the slug does really well for tanking I held Jormy for about 15 mins with it while using pet food Eta only took about 5% off it tho solo before I died.

The new Ability Run Wild only last 5 mins with a 15 min recast and you lose your jug so I don't see me ever using it, such a waste bst gets screwed again...

[Dallas]

Psst, BSTS! Do we all approve?

Waist Rare Lv94
Defense5 CHR+5 Haste+5% Pet:Haste+5%
BST, DRG, SMN, PUP

[Zatias]

Psst, BSTS! Do we all approve?

Waist Rare Lv94
Defense5 CHR+5 Haste+5% Pet:Haste+5%
BST, DRG, SMN, PUP
Very much so. lol

[Malamasala]

The new Ability Run Wild only last 5 mins with a 15 min recast and you lose your jug so I don't see me ever using it, such a waste bst gets screwed again...

Is Run Wild instead of call beast? Else I don't see why you wouldn't use it the last 5 minutes of your 30 or whatever minutes of pet time.

[Krysten]

Why do i think of Hulk Hogan when i see Run Wild lol.
anywhoo i still woudl rather have a new Antlion or a Kraken over a monkey anyday. havent got new antlion since what 72?

[Crawlerbasher]

the run wild ability is fantastic for when you pet is ganged up on.
Ie bad pull or when suddenly you find you pet having a hard time dealing with a few mobs.

I've used this a few times and its prevented my pet from dieing.

Its something I could see using when helping ppl with doing final fight in the nation missions, where I can solo it for them.
And also in dynamis, where I've been testing this.

I was hoping for somthing from the other eco-systtem.
Like a bird and a aquaria type mob.

[Zatias]

They will be adding Apkallu to complete the ecosystem. Bird was the only thing missing from our food chain.