View Full Version : For the Love of Ninjas....
Vraelia
03-11-2011, 04:47 AM
Can we please get Utsusemi: San already?
Gadwin
03-11-2011, 05:25 AM
Do we really need San?
Karumac
03-11-2011, 05:27 AM
If you do, it will be a 99 merit.
Avarice
03-11-2011, 05:40 AM
I'm more concerned with getting Jubaku: Ni back.
Vraelia
03-11-2011, 05:57 AM
A lot of people has discussed that San needs to be added. And I'm sure we'll be needing it possibly at 99, you never know.
And while we are on Ninjutsu spells,
I'd like to see Monomi: Ni added. Jubaku: Ni is good too. And Dokumori: Ni, added.
San does not need to be added and really shouldn't be added after the addition of Iga Kyahan +2. Jubaku: Ni is long overdue. I don't even cast Jubaku: Ichi because the casting time and proc rate are awful.
Juxtaposition
03-11-2011, 09:29 PM
Are you really that bad that you need Utsu: San? With Ni at 5 and Ichi at 4, capped Evasion you should only need Ni with Ichi for large no miss strings or after an AoE spell.
Shadobi
03-12-2011, 12:05 AM
I would like a Utsusemi: San to absorb "AOE" as well as regular spells just a longer timer to recast.
Vraelia
03-12-2011, 02:34 AM
I would like a Utsusemi: San to absorb "AOE" as well as regular spells just a longer timer to recast.
This is what I was wanting San for. I am tired of AoEs destroying shadows. It is actually annoying when you JUST casted a Utsusemi spell, and the mob casts a AoE Spell and take away your Shadows RIGHT after you casted it. I am sure everyone will agree on this, that San would be useful in this case.
hadeed
03-12-2011, 06:21 AM
i think NInja has crazy shadows now with Empyrean AF+2 but if they want to give us Utsusemi: San . well make it 1 Shadow that can take AoE magic and can be removed also with normal hit , that will make things interesting lol.
and Utsusemi: San overwrite other shadows .
Bulrogg
03-12-2011, 10:07 AM
All Ustusemi used to absorb AOE magic with 1 shadow. It would be nice to have a Job trait that when NIN was set to main job Utsusemi would be like the old Ustusemi and absorb AOE magic.
A Job Trait like that and adding :San would be cake and eating it too.
katoplepa
03-12-2011, 06:43 PM
Utsu:San = God Mode
I don't think SE will add this, maybe with merit at 99 if they will introduce new and powerfull NMs/Bcnms/etc.
p.s.
you talk about Iga Khyan+2 , you right, but before, you have to drop that damn piece in Vunkerl !!!
never won 1 at lot in months, damn me !!!
if you are about to trash one on Sylph, send me a tell ... ^^"
Superchicken
03-13-2011, 11:51 PM
San does not need to be added and really shouldn't be added after the addition of Iga Kyahan +2. Jubaku: Ni is long overdue. I don't even cast Jubaku: Ichi because the casting time and proc rate are awful.
I find jubuka: ichi very useful. Those paralyzes procs can make a big difference.
I wouldn't be mad at a jubuka ni though. I mean even if its in the merit category like RDM is now with para II
Harukusan
03-16-2011, 04:43 AM
This is what I was wanting San for. I am tired of AoEs destroying shadows. It is actually annoying when you JUST casted a Utsusemi spell, and the mob casts a AoE Spell and take away your Shadows RIGHT after you casted it. I am sure everyone will agree on this, that San would be useful in this case.
Possible solutions that aren't so unreasonable:
1) Attack faster and harder and interrupt the spells
2) Lead the spells or AoE TP abilities with Ichi so it casts just after shadows are removed
3) Fire your mage for their inability to cast Stun
4) If your target is immune to Stun, refer to #2
Adding another shadow to our arsenal sounds fancy, but I think we've been spoiled enough with Iga Kyahan +2.