Best Quick Draw setup

[noodles355]

i'm really struggling to figure out what the best QD setups would be. Some lots seem obvious enough:
Uggy Pendant, Novio+Hectate's, MaB augmented Demon Rings or AGI Rings (Rajas if needed for STP) Forban Cape and Aquiline Belt, but I struggle on coming to the visible gear slots.

Armageddon/Death Penalty Cor in my LS says to use 5/5 AF3+2 for quick draw, but I'm not convinced. Does the seet bonus really proc enough to make it worthwhile?
Other options I'm looking at right now are AF1/AF1+1 Hat and Augmented QD Delay/MaB mirke Wardecors. They're both sound pieces. But then you're only down to 3/5 for set bonus, and out of those remaining three, only one is worthwhile (+2 feet). So now I'm really wondering:
5/5 AF3+2?
4/5 AF3+2 and AF1 Hat?
4/5 AF3+2 and Mirke Wardecors MaB/QD Delay
3/5 AF3+2 and Mirke + AF1 hat
Mirke + AF1 Hat + Af3+2 Feet + [legs] + [hands] (Denali and Something else maybe??)

What do you sue for QD?

[Mirabelle]

AF1+1 Hat
QD/MAB Mirke
AF3+2 gloves
AF3+2 Legs
Af3+2 feet

Love seeing those big numbers when they happen lol.
I'd say that the proc rate on triple damage is not enough to really outweigh loading up on AF3+2. But I don't have Shutzens mittens and Denali legs are only MAB+3 so I'm not missing a ton of damage by swapping them out. But the hat adds 10% and the mirke body offers about 10% more QD opportunities. The AF3 doesn't seem to aoutdo that but I've never done the formal math.

[Greatguardian]

My current setup is thus:

AF1+1 head / Ugga/Artemis (depends on moon phase) / Novio / Hecate's
QD/MAB Mirke / Schutzen Mitts / MAB+2 Demon / MAB+2 Demon
Forban Cape / Aquiline Belt / Denali Kecks / AF3+2 feet

5/5 AF3+2 is really only for the epeen shot numbers. It will not outperform a mix/match set. I need to pick up some +3 demon rings and those +4 MAB legs at some point though.

[Mirabelle]

5/5 AF3+2 is really only for the epeen shot numbers.

But admittedly, what puts a smile on your face more, 20 more QD damage or that occasional 3k QD shot. Life is all about the little smiles and laughs along the way. I'd never diss a COR that went 5/5 AF3+2. If they and their party get a hoot from epeen QD shots, more power to them.

[Greatguardian]

Eh? It's not about doing "just 20 more damage", the guy asked whether 5/5 AF3+2 was better than a mix/match set, and in terms of overall damage it is not. That's all. I like epeen shots as much as the next guy, but that's really all it's for. Less overall damage for a better chance of seeing big shiny numbers.

[Afania]

i'm really struggling to figure out what the best QD setups would be. Some lots seem obvious enough:
Uggy Pendant, Novio+Hectate's, MaB augmented Demon Rings or AGI Rings (Rajas if needed for STP) Forban Cape and Aquiline Belt, but I struggle on coming to the visible gear slots.

Armageddon/Death Penalty Cor in my LS says to use 5/5 AF3+2 for quick draw, but I'm not convinced. Does the seet bonus really proc enough to make it worthwhile?
Other options I'm looking at right now are AF1/AF1+1 Hat and Augmented QD Delay/MaB mirke Wardecors. They're both sound pieces. But then you're only down to 3/5 for set bonus, and out of those remaining three, only one is worthwhile (+2 feet). So now I'm really wondering:
5/5 AF3+2?
4/5 AF3+2 and AF1 Hat?
4/5 AF3+2 and Mirke Wardecors MaB/QD Delay
3/5 AF3+2 and Mirke + AF1 hat
Mirke + AF1 Hat + Af3+2 Feet + [legs] + [hands] (Denali and Something else maybe??)

What do you sue for QD?

From what I've heard AF3+2 full set doesn't cut it(they add like 3% each), so don't bother. I know some ppl still use full set, and I think it's a viable choice, but it's probably not the best atm, especially you can get recast -5 on head and body slot. No matter how much extra dmg you're getting, it's not gonna be as good as recast -

I usually use 2 sets(sometimes 3, with third set full of STP, but rarely needed), both only has 2 AF3+2 for set proc.
If I have more than 100%+ TP. It's not the best, still need better rings and head piece:

AF1+1 hat/U.pendant/novio/hecates
QD and MAB mirke/AF3+2 hands/zodiac or AGI rings x2
Forban/aquiline(or obi)/MAB+4 desultor/AF3+2 feet

If I have less than 75% TP:
AF1+1 hat/U.pendant/novio/hecates
QD and MAB mirke/Schutzen mittens/Hoard ring/Rajas ring
Forban/Aquiline(or obi)/AF3+2 legs/AF3+2 feet

Also IMO, QD recast - w.head is better than AF1+1 hat.

[Greatguardian]

Oh yeah, a well augmented Whead definitely beats out Af1+1. I just don't have it, ha. I should have made a note of that.

[Agetos]

i proc my set bonus often. for some reason i proc extremely often when i macro in oberon's bullets. but idk it could just be luck. but i'd say like 1/5 i set proc

[Mirabelle]

Oh yeah, a well augmented Whead definitely beats out Af1+1. I just don't have it, ha. I should have made a note of that.

Only in the setting of riding QD timers. If you aren't doing something where you are popping QD whenever it's up, you likely are best served with AF1.

Personally I can think of only a handful of situations on COR where I'm riding QD timers. Soloing, a few Aby NMs where I'm allowed to come on COR like Amphitrite. But everyone's mileage may vary. I'd like to have the option though but it's low priority right now.

[Greatguardian]

I don't think I'm ever not riding QD timers. Cards are cheap, and instant damage+TP is nice. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

[Mirabelle]

I don't think I'm ever not riding QD timers. Cards are cheap, and instant damage+TP is nice. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

Most of my Aby NM experience on COR is waiting for proc then going all out once yellow proc'd and red has terrorized. Doesn't make for ideal slow steady QD damage. Much of the time is spent intentionally not damaging the mob so it doesn't die before yellow or red proc. If your LS lets you QD during that phase of the fight that's fine. Mine doesn't. Of course some of the big baddies in Abyssea its OK to keep going with QD. But Seal mobs, +2 NM's in Visions and Heroes zones and empy drop mobs for 80-85 are too squishy to lay the hurt on before proc's are in.

[Greatguardian]

I rarely use my COR in Abyssea to be perfectly honest. Armageddon isn't quite as useful as my Verethragna Mnk. My friends and I are pretty much long since done with most of our non-random-body armors and spend more time on things like Empyrean #2-4 than seals, so the need to grellow and such is non-existant on most things and Red is fairly easy to trigger. I don't hold back on Corsair unless the mob is at 10% HP and someone's screwed up timing the trigger 3 or 4 times already or something.

[Mirabelle]

I rarely use my COR in Abyssea to be perfectly honest

Of course this is a problem with the job. We talk about all these ideal setups and none of us get to play the job anyway. I go BLU or WHM to most of my LS Aby events. So on the rare occ I've been allowed to come COR it's been a less than fruitful endeavor, mostly casting buffs and waiting on procs.
Still looking forward to completing Armaggeddon though.

[noodles355]

Yeah, can't wait to get my Armageddon either. 2boxed my first 20 Gems Thf+Whm before realising I wasn't getting any Coins for Cor+2 feet so shouting for a pickup blm who wants cards till i'm 6/6. One more session should put me 6/6 hopefully. Figure I'll lvl Thf on my mule to 49, and 2box CC Rdm + Whm/Thf (Solo rdm, TH on whm). Not looking forward to CC though cus it'll take longer to kill and I'll probbably have to farm>job change>kill.
Not that I've finished the pre-trils up to carabosse... did Desmodant, the yagudo and the quadav last night and this morning and on bugbear now.

I think the VNMs will actually be the worst part of getting Arma85.

[Mirabelle]

I think the VNMs will actually be the worst part of getting Arma85.

After nearly a year of not getting any help or seeing any shouts for the VNM's I stumbled upon a JP group while I was trying to solo Yacumama. They let me join and we knocked out all but the last two Tammuz in one evening lol. The hardest part about the VNM's is the requirement to carry the weapon during the kill. All these VNM's would be killable on DNC but i wouldn't have gotten credit without equiping the magnatus.

I've gotten into an empy group for my weapon which means it will take awhile to get us all done. Fortunately no one wants glavoid shells.

[Greatguardian]

Cor is pretty god-tier in Voidwatch, so I can't really complain. It has a ton of procs, a Regain roll, and the ability to damage from a distance. I don't expect to use it in Abyssea much, but Wildfire Brew definitely has its perks. Overall, I don't think they really have that much to "fix" with Corsair right now. The 11 buff and the addition of a third active roll are amazing, and Voidwatch has crafted a true niche for Corsair that has never really existed in previous content.

[noodles355]

When is that 3rd active roll being implemented? or was it just mentioned on the official job visions? or do we know what you have to do to activate it? I do love the 11 buff though, it's awesome.

[Greatguardian]

It was mentioned back when they implemented the 11 buff, so I'd guess it would be coming in the September version update maybe? They have not specified a date on that yet, nor any potential requirements for using it. As far as I know, it's still on the table. If someone can confirm that it's not available in the Test Server, then it's likely being pushed to whenever they implement Cait Sith/Atomos and the other post-update job adjustments.