A posting suggesting to community:

[xiozen]

Adopt this principle when posting will help all who have to read your posts: KISS

Keep

It

Short

&

Simple

Lets try not to create "walls of text" if you want the devs or anyone else to read it.

Thanks!

[cidbahamut]

That's not what that acronym stands for...

[Rafien]

Keep it simple, stupid!

[Alhanelem]

No, people should not adopt that principle. People should say what they need to say to get the job done. If you can't read a so called "wall of text, " then you have a problem with laziness. Some things just can't be made one/two liners.

[Rafien]

Wall of text is just a complete slop of words in 1 giant paragraph. A well structured, long post is not a wall of text.

[Alhanelem]

Well, I agree. But a lot of people treat both as the same thing.

[Babekeke]

Wall of text is just a complete slop of words in 1 giant paragraph. A well structured, long post is not a wall of text.

Correct, unfortunately 50% of the community don't understand paragraphs, grammar and punctuation.

[Orlind]

Correct, unfortunately 50% of the community don't understand paragraphs, grammar and punctuation.

This is why I think everyone should, at one point in their lives, work as an email support agent. I also enjoy a well-structured and informative post and hate that some people keep making those walls.

[SpankWustler]

I have a better suggestion. People should learn what punctuation marks, sentences, and paragraphs are intended to do. Long posts are often needed to explain a game mechanic or a situation. Posts that read like a kindergartener's essay on what he wants to be when he grows up are not needed and certainly not wanted.

For some people who post here English is a second or third language, and oddly enough, their posts are usually pretty simple to read. I assume this is because they put roughly two seconds of effort into making their posts readable. It's not hard!

[Rosina]

I think people need to learn not to butt in on how people type. As their could be reasons for it. Like being disabled. My suggestion to the "community". Is look up the term "game" is. I just had some elitist just walk up to me in game and tell me I play dancer wrong abd that my "misguided ways" need to be "addressed". pretty much acting like their are my saviour and come to rid me of my noob ways.

Though said person never seen me play dancer and got this info from these forums. Then after several times being nice and saying no ty. While also asking for proof of how they are my one of the 2 best dancers on the server. they pretty much call me a lost cause.

Best way, do not speak for everyone. As no one play the game for the same reasons. I play just to have fun and relax I could care less of end game or having the best gear.

Anyway that my two cents and an example of a possible wall of text.

PS. I miss the old days of ffxi, when ppl actually played like as a game.

[Yamimarik44]

I just had some elitist just walk up to me in game and tell me I play dancer wrong abd that my "misguided ways" need to be "addressed". pretty much acting like their are my saviour and come to rid me of my noob ways.

Though said person never seen me play dancer and got this info from these forums. Then after several times being nice and saying no ty. While also asking for proof of how they are my one of the 2 best dancers on the server. they pretty much call me a lost cause.

Best way, do not speak for everyone. As no one play the game for the same reasons. I play just to have fun and relax I could care less of end game or having the best gear.

Yeah I saw the screen shot on FFXIAH of how the conversation went down, and honestly I laughed so hard! You honestly are a lost cause, and you're not contributing to this thread you are just down right complaining. Please next time just don't even speak ok? Most of us would appreciate less of a headache from you if you have nothing to actually contribute.

On to this thread, yes I agree with the majority. If you can't properly say what needs to be said in the right way, paraphrasing everything that is important even if it is lengthy, then stop typing like you are in kindergarten about to give your first essay on how mommy and daddy are the best!

[Leonlionheart]

some things call for a simple answer hell who even cares about grammer

Some things are much more intricate and take much longer to describe, require examples, or even essay format.

[Leonlionheart]

I just had some elitist just walk up to me in game and tell me I play dancer wrong abd that my "misguided ways" need to be "addressed". pretty much acting like their are my saviour and come to rid me of my noob ways.

Someone gives ME advice?

ELITIST

[Tamoa]

I think people need to learn not to butt in on how people type. As their could be reasons for it. Like being disabled.

Personally, I very very rarely comment on people's typos and grammar mistakes. I'm fully aware that there is such a thing called dyslexia.

However, there's a huge difference between that, and the kind of posts which most of us here have a problem with - the major wall of texts, no paragraphs, often with little to no punctuation aswell. It makes it incredibly hard to read. If you have something you want to tell the community, please make a little effort so that your post is readable and people don't give up before they've even started reading it.

Personally, it also irks me when people say "u" instead of "you", "y" instead of "why" and when they don't know the difference between "your" and "you're". It's just..... sloppy and lazy, at least that's how I feel about it.

As for the rest of your post (the part I left out of the quote), wtf does that have to do with this thread's topic?

[Myrrh]

I fail to see a reason that allows people to type "u", "r", ect.

[Octaviane]

Personally, I very very rarely comment on people's typos and grammar mistakes. I'm fully aware that there is such a thing called dyslexia.

However, there's a huge difference between that, and the kind of posts which most of us here have a problem with - the major wall of texts, no paragraphs, often with little to no punctuation aswell. It makes it incredibly hard to read. If you have something you want to tell the community, please make a little effort so that your post is readable and people don't give up before they've even started reading it.

Personally, it also irks me when people say "u" instead of "you", "y" instead of "why" and when they don't know the difference between "your" and "you're". It's just..... sloppy and lazy, at least that's how I feel about it.

As for the rest of your post (the part I left out of the quote), wtf does that have to do with this thread's topic?

YAY!!!!!!!!! Thank you! The use of "u" "ur" "y" etc; drives me up a wall of text.

[Zatias]

Y R U so mad?

I kid, but yes please to the no walls of text.

Also some people don't have keyboards ingame so abbreviating with Y and U are faster. However, on this forum, I will slap you for it.

[Tamoa]

YAY!!!!!!!!! Thank you! The use of "u" "ur" "y" etc; drives me up a wall of text.

How about "lawl" instead of "lol"? I swear whenever I see someone type "lawl" it makes me want to club baby seals or something. -.-



Y R U so mad?

I kid, but yes please to the no walls of text.

Also some people don't have keyboards ingame so abbreviating with Y and U are faster. However, on this forum, I will slap you for it.

Agreed - I don't mind "u" and "y" etc so much in game, but in forum posts.... Ugh!

[Bubeeky]

My biggest issue in game or out of game is when people use l33t speak or however you spell it...and I use the word spell very loosly in this case.

[Kimara]

I like to read. As long as the person posting has something interesting or meaningful to say I don't mind a wall of text. Most people that do that end up paraphrasing it anyway for the tl;dr people. It doesnt bother me much when people use y or u or r, but it does bother me when what they are saying stops making sense.

[Soranika]

You're in a forum... you're EXPECTED to read. If you wanna go some where to keep it simple, go join a chat room or use twatter.

[Octaviane]

133T speak, the single biggest irritation in game. Why can't you just say Hi, yes, no? Even without a keyboard you can do that much. :)

[Yamimarik44]

You're in a forum... you're EXPECTED to read. If you wanna go some where to keep it simple, go join a chat room or use twatter.

^ Agrees with this too. Hi Soranika!!

[SNK]

No, people should not adopt that principle. People should say what they need to say to get the job done. If you can't read a so called "wall of text, " then you have a problem with laziness. Some things just can't be made one/two liners.

I'm seriously not going to read a huge wall-of-text because people can't be assed to hit the enter key a few times and space their paragraphs. People who type like this need to realize that if they want people to read their posts much less take them seriously, they have to give their readers some breathing space between paragraphs.

It's simple basic stuff that any person who learned to read in grade school should have picked up.

[Ank]

How about "lawl" instead of "lol"?

lol, lul, lulz, lawl, lawlz, trolololol, its a deep and meaningful lexicon.

[Lordscyon]

Keep it simple I like it but some people like too express there ideas that creats alot of words on a page.
^^ It be nice if they brain storm there ideas too less words^^ Then i wont fall asleep on a long thread read.

[Leonlionheart]

I fail to see a reason that allows people to type "u", "r", ect.

I use it to make fun of people or simply give them a hard time,

"Y U SO DED," is basically what I say when someone in my LS dies.

[Alymorel]

I don't mind big walls o' text, but in my opinion, it'd be a huge favor to everyone's eyes and brain if people broke down their ideas and such into paragraphs. Divide up your thoughts and make it clear when one stops and the next starts. Also, if you're being serious, don't forget about your grammar. Proper grammar makes things easier to read too. It doesn't have to be perfect, but please make it understandable. It's never fun having to read a sentence 4 or 5 times to figure out wtf you were attempting to say. Thanks ^^

[xiozen]

You're in a forum... you're EXPECTED to read. If you wanna go some where to keep it simple, go join a chat room or use twatter.

My post was based primarly off of:


Also, just one more personal request…

I will be sure to read each and every one of your posts, so there is really no need to change the font size or color to make it stand out more. Just be sure to not create huge walls of text because that makes it pretty tough for me to get through it when there are a ton of posts to read. With that said, just consider little old Camate, so I can better convey your feedback to the development team.

Looking forward to all of your ideas and requests!

I completely agree with Camate and anyone that takes into consideration the "big scheme of things" can see how large walls of text can dissuade anyone from attempting to get through it.

^^

[Quetzacoatl]

Would anyone consider this post (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/13105-dev1024-Job-adjustments-RDM?p=178858&viewfull=1#post178858) to be a wall of text? >_>

Just curious.

[Gokku]

got to rdm melee skipped the rest *im j/k lol*

[Tamoa]

Would anyone consider this post (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/13105-dev1024-Job-adjustments-RDM?p=178858&viewfull=1#post178858) to be a wall of text? >_>

Just curious.

In my opinion, that's not a wall of text. Yes, it's a lengthy post, but it has paragraphs and looks tidy and isn't hard to read.

[SpankWustler]

Would anyone consider this post (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/13105-dev1024-Job-adjustments-RDM?p=178858&viewfull=1#post178858) to be a wall of text?

I'd say it's a long, but properly formatted, post.

It definitely doesn't look like the work of a twelve-year-old James Joyce, which is my criteria for "wall of text".

[Quetzacoatl]

Good to know. Thanks. :P

[Selzak]

I think people need to learn not to butt in on how people type. As their could be reasons for it. Like being disabled. My suggestion to the "community". Is look up the term "game" is. I just had some elitist just walk up to me in game and tell me I play dancer wrong abd that my "misguided ways" need to be "addressed". pretty much acting like their are my saviour and come to rid me of my noob ways.

Though said person never seen me play dancer and got this info from these forums. Then after several times being nice and saying no ty. While also asking for proof of how they are my one of the 2 best dancers on the server. they pretty much call me a lost cause.

Best way, do not speak for everyone. As no one play the game for the same reasons. I play just to have fun and relax I could care less of end game or having the best gear.

Anyway that my two cents and an example of a possible wall of text.

PS. I miss the old days of ffxi, when ppl actually played like as a game.
You are a bad kind of person, and it has nothing to do with being ADD. I have ADD.

Attention Deficit != Stubborn & Ignorant

[Panthera]

Would anyone consider this post (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/13105-dev1024-Job-adjustments-RDM?p=178858&viewfull=1#post178858) to be a wall of text? >_>

Just curious.

A long post, sure. But that's a good thing.

There's room for Twitter-esque posts. Brevity is the soul of wit, as the saying goes. However, too much brevity is the soul of witlessness. It means you have nothing to say.