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Parrow89
08-22-2011, 09:15 PM
Hi everyone. After reading a couple threads I've come up with a couple ideas that would put scholars back on the map.

Gives Sch Regen in scale like it was in low levels.
Regen III-60
Regen IV-80
Regen V- 95 (Mp cost 110mp. Restores 900 hp over 20 secs. 45hp/tic)

New Job abilities.
Sch lvl 92-

Paulatim Sanare: (To heal gradually; in latin)
Your next healing magic spell applies a heal over time effect equal to the amount healed.
Cooldown 5 mins.
Duration 60 secs or first qualifying spell used.
Duration of HoT effect: 60 secs so it would be like casting a cure with a bonus regen application.


Idea for this ability is to give a regen ability that is a separate buff from regen and stacks with it.

Elementi Praesidium: (Elemental Protection; in latin) Your next Elemental magic spell can be cast on a party member. Party member gains a damage shield for that element equal to the damage the spell would have caused.
Cooldown:3 mins
Duration: 60 seconds or first qualifying spell cast.
Duration of Buff: 45 seconds or until all damage is absorbed.

These additions I think would give SCH a little more variety and uniqueness to the job.

Thoughts?

Yukichibi
08-22-2011, 11:31 PM
Replace it with a stratagem charge instead of a timed JA.
Paulatim Sanare, seems pretty good, too bad Elementi Praesidium can't be cast on all party members with manifestation for example, it would be great.
Two good ideas IMO.

Parrow89
08-23-2011, 01:14 AM
I think Scholar doesn't need another Stratagem right now. But an actual job ability is something that we could use. And with these as JA instead of Stratagems it allows for use with Enlightenment.

Sotek
08-23-2011, 02:04 AM
Elementi Praesidium should work of Storm spells, not nukes. As in, cast Sandstorm on a person and they'll absorb X amount of Earth damage after using the ability on them. Could be the mirror for the Geomancer (targets gains double weather) idea that me and a few people flung around for a while. Elementi Praesidium as a Light Arts Stratagem, Geomancer as a Dark Arts.

I don't really have an opinion of Paulatim Sanare, so I'll just throw in my own ideas:

-Geminus, Job Ability Lv.96: Next spell does not expend Stratagems while still gaining their effect. 5Min Recast. Should be simple enough for SE to work a status effect that's used up instead of Stratagems. Should be. It should be easy enough for them to make all Stratagems show up during Tabula Rasa, or even this very effect, but they haven't.
-Fusion/Distortion/Gravitation/Fragmentation Helices, Merits (all as one, or pick one of four, depending on how SE reworks things like Ninja and Black Mage merits): Helices with t2 Skillchain properties. Other than elemental properties, same as current Helices. Subsequent merits decrease the delay between tics, so first unlocks, then after that -1sec per merit. 5/5 would tic every 5 seconds, making them roughly twice as good as current Helices.
Tempestas I, Job Trait Lv.49: Gain benefits of day/weather effects. Basically, you gain the effect of single weather/day 100%. Any secondary increase is calculated normally, so Lightsday and Light weather, you'd gain +10% 100% of the time and a further +10% 33% of the time. If that isn't possible, increases the proc rate of day/weather effects from 33% to 66%.
Tempestas II, Lv.97: Gain the full benefits of day/weather effects. Go burn in hell weather obis, basically. I will also accept a single piece of gear with Enhances "Tempestas" effect in place of this. Presumably on Argute +2; though none of them are exactly nuking gear, so ignore that thought.
I got bored of going through a latin translator from here:
-Enlightenment v2, Merits (though I'd rather this be what Enlightenment does): Switches your current Arts or Addendum.
-Enlightenment v3, Merits: Your next Stratagem costs twice the usual amount of charges while gaining enhanced potency. Parsimony is already broken with AFv3+2 legs, so lets ignore that. Alacrity becomes -75% cast time/recast. Manifestation becomes limitless, AoE nukes, AoE Spikes, etc. Ebullience becomes +40% damage (+50% with bonnet+2). The same holds true for Light Arts versions. Immanence grants nukes t2 Skillchain properties (for example, both Fire and Thunder would be Fusion). Perpetuance doubles in duration. Addendum would grant extra White and Black magic spells only if you've learned them on other jobs, Merit spells not withstanding. Addendum then wears off after one spell. The merit Stratagems will simply double in effect too, not that they'll ever be worth it. Merits could either increase the effect - in which case the effects I've mentioned are 5/5 merits, with the exception of Addendum, which would wear off after 5 spells with 5/5 (even if the 5 spells you cast aren't even the ones it unlocks, like Enlightenment) - or simply reduced recast.

Ank
08-23-2011, 02:43 AM
Not sure I want too many more job abilities I have to use before even casting anything, is my only issue with some of these ideas.
Perhaps job traits would rectify that.
Tempestas would be amazing.

And uh... no thanks for needing to level blm/rdm/whm/etc to use things on sch. >.>

Sotek
08-23-2011, 03:15 AM
Not sure I want too many more job abilities I have to use before even casting anything, is my only issue with some of these ideas.


That's kind of the point of Geminus. You use it when you have time and it saves you time reapplying Stratagems. It's godly for Immanence, for example. At the very least there's no net loss or gain. You use Geminus and Ebullience instead of Ebullience and Ebullience.
My version of Enlightenment does the same. Rather than using Dark Arts then Addendum: Black, you just use Enlightenment when you need to switch.


And uh... no thanks for needing to level blm/rdm/whm/etc to use things on sch. >.>

To use Cure V and Cure VI on Scholar. Or Ancient Magic or Agas/jas for Staggers etc. It's pretty logical to me. If you're a Scholar, go study White Mage and Black Mage to temporarily gain access to their spells. It's not like leveling takes more than a day anymore anyway; buying scrolls is the only annoyance here.
Plus its an optional merit, though I'll be honest, I only put that in there for a laugh. No doubt people will think giving Scholar Black Mage or White Mages spell list for one spell is insanely overpowered, even though it costs three Stratagems (you use it and Addendum: White costs two Stratagems for Cure VI for example, Addendum: White wears off after so you have to reapply it Addendum) and would without doubt be on a large recast (I'd put it on a 15 minute recast with multiple merits reducing it to 10 at the minimum).

Ank
08-23-2011, 06:24 AM
Yeah it could be nice with immanence, but do we really want to do ja > ja > spell > spell? Just seems like we like adding hassle to the job. I'm not saying I don't like the idea though, especially for immanence, it'd be nice to be able to self sc without spending so many charges. And I guess it depends on how long the gemini buff lasts, if you could prebuff a fake strategem before you actually need it, there could be tactical use there to perhaps.


But requiring me to level blm and whm all the way to 90 so I can use an ability to cast one spell sucks, either the spells suck and aren't worth it at all or there's one spell that requires you to level another job just to use it. It's like how people on forums like to say "if you wanna be a whm, level whm" only instead it would be SE telling us that. Well I know leveling isn't really a big deal but still.

Making enlightenment stronger would be really cool though, regardless.

Sotek
08-23-2011, 06:53 AM
but do we really want to do ja > ja > spell > spell?

How is that any different to ja> spell > ja > spell? It's effectively an extra Stratagem or two at the cost of having to spend an extra second between using Stratagems and casting your spells, with the benefit of not having to spend an extra second using a Stratagem on your second spell. There's essentially no difference. You'd be spending two seconds preparing two spells, rather than spending one second preparing one spell. I really don't get how this is an issue.

I don't see how it would be a hassle. As I've said it's perfect for Immanence. For buffing, lets say you need to do Protect V and Shell V or Phalanx and Adloquium. Geminum + Accession + Perpetuance is far more convenient than Accession + Perpetuance then Accession + Perpetuance. For Ebullience nukes, I doubt you're timing it so perfectly that you've literally no seconds to spare between nukes. For healing, I can use two Stratagems during Cure IVs recast so that doesn't seem like an issue.

Ank
08-23-2011, 09:13 AM
It's not really an issue considering I've mostly agree'd with you, I simple disagree with it as stated.