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Tetsujin
08-10-2011, 08:05 AM
As we all know, Stormwaker stops receiving spells at level 78 despite the current level cap of 90. Furthermore, the Harlequin setup stops gaining spells post 50. Not even Cure V. It's almost unprofessional, considering the level cap is about to raise by another 5 levels.

Now, before people post comments like "lol harlequin's pointless post level 10" and "lawl why use stormwaker when you have soulsoother and spiritreaver," I'd like to say that I'm among those that would like to see Harlequin have some functionality again, and I'd hate to see portions of my arsenal as "useless."

Stormwaker should continue to fulfill its original design - an in between used for solo play, being able to both nuke and cure. Soulsoother and Spiritreaver, on the other hand, are more optimized for party play (which they already do well) with slightly higher risks in hate acquisition but more to return to the table.

If not the above, then perhaps Stormwaker could branch off as an enfeeble heavy automaton. I don't mind that people aren't using it, but I do mind that it's become relatively "useless." At least make the decision not to use it a conscious one. Same goes for Harlequin.

I would at least like some sort of reply or notification to know that revision of the Harlequin frame is being considered, at the very least.

Xanaduu
08-10-2011, 10:12 PM
think this was already mentioned in another thread... but i do agree, id like to see something more for harly and stormwaker.
i always saw stormwaker as the "rdm" of our assortment and as such id like to see it cast certian spells like addle, gravity ect and maybe buffs like haste, phalanx (maybe make it targetable like phalanx II) and atleast up to pro and shell V~ just something to make em worth using more.
I also think harly head/frame should maybe get its own set of weapon skills post magic mortar, maybe more h2h oriented, just some thoughts.

Tetsujin
08-11-2011, 02:30 AM
I like some of the suggestions, but a few comments
- Haste, Phalanx, Protect, and Shell being cast by puppets seems a bit touchy. Too many recasts and self-casts for one and too much thunder stolen from rdm and whm (cue arguments about other jobs being overpowered blah blah blah) I assume that SE wants to add those in attachment form though, that's just my guess.
- I've also seen Stormwaker as the more "redmage-esque" of the three.
- Harlequin specific weaponskills, that makes sense.

Let's see how things unfold.

Xanaduu
08-11-2011, 09:47 PM
now if only the mods responded directly to job forums ~,~

Sanders
08-13-2011, 05:05 PM
As for Stormwaker: yes ffs, give it the rdm level nukes it's entitled to and, very suitably, tier II enfeebles.

Harlequin... I agree with the OP, I'd love for it to be useful again, considering it's the front-runner for the job. But it's such an unskilled do-a-bit-of-everything frame, I think it would be hard to change into something useful. Unless PUP got the AF/relic/whatever head and/or frame (that I guess could be a revamp of the harlequin).