If i was too work for FFXI Square enix I would...

[Lordscyon]

I would WORK FOR FREE! play ffxi 24/7! If hire.
It be Cool if it was possible that Square enix made a contest too win a trip too japan and become an employee for ffxi.

Tell us what will be your dream job if you where hire with ffxi TEAM!!!

~FFXI FOR LIFE!~

[Inafking]

I would WORK FOR FREE! play ffxi 24/7!

And also if they feed me food!

And let me stay in there office! and sleep on the office chair it be my dream!!!!

As long as the AC is back on, I'm down for this.

I don't know about playing 24/7, gotta work on development some time. But my biggest 3 projects:

1. Ps3 Client

2. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/11395-Jeuno-Quest-Bulliten-Board

3. Bring back auto trans. I know JP don't use it, but it helps my spelling.

[Seha]

I would dispose of PS2 support.

Then work on improving the game in all those things that are limited from PS2 limitations.

[Crocker]

I would Fire the STF and the person who made the auto ban tool! Then I would unban everyone even the people that did bad things and give everyone a 2nd chance since SE cant tell the difference between RMT and legit players...
(alt account banned and blamed for RMT) That's a huge insult being blamed for something like that then not being able to do anything about it since customer support is worthless.

After that mess was cleared up I would fix customer service so they aren't completely worthless.

Now that all the wrongfully banned people are back SE would have a better income and I would start on a new expansion and change back all the dungeon zones they messed up.

http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/rule/specialtask.html look at all the money that was lost from a faulty autoban program! Sure we all know bannings need to be done but 10,000-30,000+ people in a month? That alone should of been a red flag on thier end that it was wrong. If I was SE I would be furious about that many people in 1 month being banned.
10,000 people with 1 character no mules is $129,500 for 1 month or $1,554,000 a year.

[StingRay104]

Ya what everyone has said so far I'd do. Seriously, had some friends unfairly banned by SE, have my own beefs with the customer service (or lack there of), and of course PS3 take over.

[Meyi]

I would design fabulouth armor.

[Inafking]

Botters deserved to be banned.

[Malamasala]

I'd fix Summoner in like a week. Rest of the time I'm not sure what I'd be doing. Probably just answer questions on the forums to make people happy.

Nothing special, just the things I think someone should already be doing.

[Panthera]

ADJUSTMENTS TO THE EXPERIENCE POINTS SYSTEM

The entrance requirement for Abyssea areas has been raised to 75.

In order to get exp monsters, players must perform an action on the mob, or a party/alliance member who possesses enmity on the mob.

Resting shall no longer acrue enmity on monsters.

If a player outside of your party/alliance takes action on you, you will not receive experience points.

Once you complete a regime/tome etc, you will be automatically re-signed for it.

Chests containing experience points shall now appear in non-Abyssea areas. These
chests may contain more experience points than their Abyssea counterparts.

There will no longer be a wait to receive tabs for completing Fields of Valor or
Grounds of Valor.

Fields of Valor and Grounds of Valor have been extended to areas of the following
expansions: Chains of Promethia, Treasure of Aht Urgan, Wings of the Goddess.


The experience points of certain monsters have been adjusted. Some shall see a
slight decrease in experience points. Others shall receive a very substantial
increase.

Sample monster receiving a decrease: Colibri.
Sample monster receiving an increase: Soulflayer.


ITEMS ADJUSTMENTS

The stagger system will be removed from all events. However, the minimum drop rate
for all items will be no lower than 50%.

Treasure Hunter can boost drop rates by up to 50%.

Alexandrites will now drop from certain monsters outside of Salvage.

Crystals will now stack to 99.

Clusters from Elementals shall break down to 99 crystals.

New recipes for bullets have been added.

It will now be possible to register to receive seals for a specific job for completing regimes in Abyssea areas.

AF3 Base Armor shall now appear in chests scattered across all Abyssea zones. But be careful...

JOB ADJUSTMENTS

Enmity caps will now vary by job. Some jobs shall see an increase in enmity caps, others a decrease.

The A.I. of Automatons has been adjusted.

The following jobs shall receive access to spells:

Dark Knight: Absorb-ATK, Absorb-DEF, Absorb-EVA
Paladin: Flash II
Red Mage, Scholar: Cure V
Red Mage: Tier III Enspells

The formula for the potency of healing spells has been modified, placing a strong
emphasis on the role of the Healing Magic stat.


The following jobs shall receive new traits and Abilities:

Corsair: Solitaire
Dancer: Auto-Regain I & II, Rousing Jig
Dark Knight: Magic Attack Bonus I
Samurai: Kyudo
Thief: Subtle Blow, Triple Attack II

It will now be possible for Puppetmasters to instruct their pets to stand at maximum distance from monsters.

It will now be possible for Beastmasters to charm more large frame monsters.

The skill up rates for the following skills have received substancial increased:
Summoning Magic
Guard

OTHER ADJUSTMENTS

It will now be possible to transport directly to the following areas:
Sacrificial Chamber
Qu'Bia Arena
Horlais Peak
Balga's Dais
Waughroon Shrine
Sacrificial Chamber
Throne Room
Chamber of Oracles

Sanraku shall now give increased Zeni for Soul Plates.

The requirement for having multiple participants for Assault, Nyzul Isle, Salvage, and other event areas has been lifted.

There will be additional Airships and Ferries going between cities.

Monster shall become passive after reaching a certain distance from their spawn
locations.

[Meyi]

Good thing this forum is make believe. XD

[Tarage]

I would ban people like OP for being moronic.

Let me clarify a little. I am a game graphics programmer. I spent 5 years at a very intense college learning my trade. It is very clear that the vast majority of you have no idea what goes into making video games. You want to play games all day? Congratulations, you are qualified to be a tester and make $10 an hour. I am not kidding.

Developers rarely get to play their games for fun. Even then, by the time we are done with crunch, we don't even want to look at them. Stop living in the clouds.

[Panthera]

I would ban people like OP for being moronic.

Let me clarify a little. I am a game graphics programmer. I spent 5 years at a very intense college learning my trade. It is very clear that the vast majority of you have no idea what goes into making video games. You want to play games all day? Congratulations, you are qualified to be a tester and make $10 an hour. I am not kidding.

Developers rarely get to play their games for fun. Even then, by the time we are done with crunch, we don't even want to look at them. Stop living in the clouds.
SE, on the other hand, has been making games for a very great deal longer. And it doesn't take a either a B.S. or Master's in Computer Science to see that FFXI gets a whole lot right, and there are things that can be improved, and they leave a forum open to that.

[Tarage]

SE, on the other hand, has been making games for a very great deal longer. And it doesn't take a either a B.S. or Master's in Computer Science to see that FFXI gets a whole lot right, and there are things that can be improved, and they leave a forum open to that.

What the hell are you talking about? I didn't say anything about SE, I was complaining about Lordscyon who seems to think that this is a chat room and he should just spout whatever moronic things are on his mind.

I was simply correcting the flawed view that 'working for video games is fun and easy!' It isn't. Next time why don't you learn to read huh?

And upon reading your 'adjustments', I just have to give you applause. You don't know a single thing about game design do you? All of your proposed adjustments either fit into 'This is so horrible it would break the game' or 'I hate Abyssea QQ'. God, this is pathetic.

[Draylo]

I would agree with you, but you sound very mad. There isn't much to concern yourself over lol

[Tarage]

I would agree with you, but you sound very mad. There isn't much to concern yourself over lol

I get mad when people are wrong on the internet. It's a sickness.

[Rosina]

rmt bans are iffy. And rmt is more then just buying gil. It is buying and selling your accounts as well. You can also get ban from knowing a person who bought gil and or bought/sold account. Or getting gil from a player who bought gil. It isn't fair but Least SE took things seriously.

[Olor]

You want to play games all day? Congratulations, you are qualified to be a tester and make $10 an hour. I am not kidding.


Meh better than working at Micky D's for 8 dollars an hour


I get mad when people are wrong on the internet. It's a sickness.

http://xkcd.com/386/


'I hate Abyssea QQ'. God, this is pathetic.

Are you new here?

[Tarage]

Meh better than working at Micky D's for 8 dollars an hour

Did I mention the work is worse than fast food? Because it is. Seriously, I've been a tester, and it almost drove me insane.


http://xkcd.com/386/

You got my joke.


Are you new here?

Yeah. I was trying to add some focus to SMN in hoping we could get some fixes, but now that I'm seeing some of the retarded ideas that are being thrown around I am not surprised nothing has been done.

[Leonlionheart]

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1) Get rid of Tarutarus completely
2) I'd make Insurgency a Crit WS.
3) Give DRG an Attack boosting JA
4) Separate Waltz timers
5) Separate Magic Blood Pacts and Physical Blood Pacts from BP: Rage
6) Separate Buffing Blood Pacts and Enfeebling Blood Pacts from BP: Ward
7) Make a whole new category for Healing Blood Pacts.
8) Show Accuracy, Evasion, Critical Hit Rate, Magic Attack and Magic Defense in the menu.
9) Remove PS2 Support and finally
10) Push for more areas, and/or, revamping old ones completely. Can we just agree to get rid of hall of the gods?

[Olor]

Yeah. I was trying to add some focus to SMN in hoping we could get some fixes, but now that I'm seeing some of the retarded ideas that are being thrown around I am not surprised nothing has been done.

Oh, you're going to have fun. I hope you like talking about melee summoner and fixes for elemental summons.

And what I would do if I was god of SE and could add batcrap random things

a) add new classes, most of them gimmicky and broken so I could laugh at people on the forums trying to fix them (geomancer, Time mage, astromancer, templar, gladiator)

b) give my char an aymur

c) create a new clown bst tribe that was true sight and hearing, that aggroed to blood, sound and sight. This bst tribe would not attack PUP

[Francisco]

1: Add the tarutaru backflip in Asuran Fists to Victory Smite too.

2: Give WAR and MNK a way to do more damage.

3: Give BLM a way to do more damage without any enmity gain.

4: Give RDM and SCH Cura natively.

5: Allow BRD to control monsters charmed with Maiden's Virelai. Allow the BRD to cast songs on the charmed monster. Add a song that increases the power of your pet. Allow BRD to charm a greater array of monsters because they're more alluring.

6: Allow adventuring fellows to equip automaton attachments. Allow players to control their actions with /petcommand. In order to balance this, it will no longer be possible to summon an automaton, monster or avatar while an adventuring fellow is present. It will also no longer be possible to summon an adventuring fellow while a called monster, automaton or avatar is present.

7: In order to establish MNK's mastery of it's own body, introduce hand wraps. These can be equipped while using a H2H weapon in the "Sub" slot. These will increase the activation rate and damage reduction of "guard" on par with various shield sizes, depending on the wrap.

Aegis Wrap
(Wrap) All Races
DEF:40
Augments "Tactical Guard"
Magical damage taken -40%
Lv. 90 MNK

... would be an example.

8: Make certain job combinations that defy logic impossible. For instance, WHM/DRG. White Mage Can't Jump.

9: In order to bring order and nourishment to the galkan hordes, give all galka players the ability to butcher any NurseryNazuna on sight. This will provide meat for sausages. In order to promote realism, once a BST has his NurseryNazuna butchered, he will not be able to summon another one until he completes what I outline in item #10.

10: Add a quest for BSTs to raise pets from birth to adulthood. This must be completed before a BST is able to summon that particular beast. If a BSTs pet is defeated in battle, he must raise a new one from birth again. This will promote responsibility among beastmasters.

11: New event for BSTs. Similar to the VNM system, invisible monsters will roam each zone throughout Vana'diel. These monsters, however, may strike at a BST at any given time. These are the revenge seeking zombies of pets left for dead. The roam the countryside looking for BSTs to prey upon. Although these monsters may be tough, there are rewards for granting them. Laying a former pet to rest will grant a beastmaster the status effect "Peace of Mind" - which will grant +5 MND and a Clear Mind job trait for 30 minutes (wears off upon zoning).

12: In order to compensate for a summoner's low HP pool, and therefore, greater risk of dying, if a summoner calls an avatar while at low HP (yellow, or below 75%), the Avatar will immediately use it's two hour ability. This will consume all of the summoners MP and Astral Flow, but it will grant a percentage of damage dealt to the summoner's HP pool. Note: There is an issue where if a summoner summons an avatar with HP below 75% while Astral Flow is inactive, causing the avatar to repeatedly try and fail to use it's special ability. We are aware of this issue, but there is no current time frame to fix it.

13: Due to popular demand and QQing, we have made the following adjustments to the thief job:

- The following Job Traits will be added to THF: Dual Wield IV, Counter, Subtle Blow.

- The following Job Abilities will be added to THF: Counterstance, Impetus, Berserk, Barrage, Meditate.

- The following spells will be added to THF: Utsusemi: Ichi (Lv. 10), Utsusemi: Ni (Lv. 30), Utsusemi: San (Lv. 50), Utsusemi: Shi (Lv. 70) and Utsusemi: Go (Lv.90)

- Through the use of "Despoil", THFs will now be able to steal a free month of FFXI from GMs... if they can spot one.

- It is now possible for THFs to use Aura Steal on players inside Abyssea to steal their atma effects. There is a known issue where these effects will not wear off unless changing jobs, even if the THF leaves Abyssea. There is currently no timeframe to fix this.

- The recast of Perfect Dodge has been lowered to 5 minutes upon reaching level 90.

- Upon reaching level 90, the new "Two-Hour" ability will be called "Grand Heist". This ability allows THF to raid the treasury of any major nation to obtain vast riches and luxurious items and powerful equipment exclusive to this job ability. If the THF is "caught" during the heist, he will be transported to Mordion Gaol where he must pay a GM 1000 gil to be released. If the player lacks gil, he will be released but unable to obtain gil for 30 minutes (Vana'diel time). If the job abilities "Hide" and "Flee" are active during "Grand Heist" - the THF will never be caught. Here is just a small sample of the items that can be obtained via "Grand Heist":

Lightbringer
(Sword) All Races
DMG: 74 Delay: 220
HP+100 MP+100 STR+20 VIT+20
Additional Effect: "Flash II"
Additional Effect: "Holy III"
Additional Effect: "Skillchain: Light"
Lv. 90 PLD

Rog's Gaiters
(Feet) All Races
Flee duration +120
Spell interruption while moving -100%
Latent Effect: Movement Speed +100%
Lv.1 BLM/RDM/THF

[StingRay104]

@Tarage: I have a friend who was a video game tester, and your right its not what we would think it is and most people would go insane from doing that job. Personally I would much rather be a video game tester than work at fast food places, sure its incredibly redundant work, but for more money than fast food and less annoying customers, i'd personally prefer that. Also if you have a problem with people being stupid or wrong on the internet, well this is a bad time for you to be alive, because most people are stupid and wrong and they like to reside on the internet. However I think its good to let people know the truth about things, like video games not being super easy to make and that the average game developer doesn't want anything to do with a game he has made, he (and for that manner other companies including SE) has a whole group of people dedicated to finding out what people thought about his game, and thus he can use that knowledge to make the next game better, or worst depending on what he tries and how it turns out (Sometimes good ideas are only good in theory). Good luck trying to fix smn, it has been broken since it was released and tho it has gotten some good ideas, it has never been what it promised to be.

[Geebee]

I would make everyone play WHM just to make all the lazy ppl who only level DD jobs see how hard WHM can be, and if they dont level WHM I would make all their job armour BRIGHT PINK! for ever

[Horadrim]

ADJUSTMENTS TO THE EXPERIENCE POINTS SYSTEM

The entrance requirement for Abyssea areas has been raised to 75.

In order to get exp monsters, players must perform an action on the mob, or a party/alliance member who possesses enmity on the mob.

Resting shall no longer acrue enmity on monsters.

If a player outside of your party/alliance takes action on you, you will not receive experience points.

Once you complete a regime/tome etc, you will be automatically re-signed for it.

Chests containing experience points shall now appear in non-Abyssea areas. These
chests may contain more experience points than their Abyssea counterparts.

There will no longer be a wait to receive tabs for completing Fields of Valor or
Grounds of Valor.

Fields of Valor and Grounds of Valor have been extended to areas of the following
expansions: Chains of Promethia, Treasure of Aht Urgan, Wings of the Goddess.


The experience points of certain monsters have been adjusted. Some shall see a
slight decrease in experience points. Others shall receive a very substantial
increase.

Sample monster receiving a decrease: Colibri.
Sample monster receiving an increase: Soulflayer.


ITEMS ADJUSTMENTS

The stagger system will be removed from all events. However, the minimum drop rate
for all items will be no lower than 50%.

Treasure Hunter can boost drop rates by up to 50%.

Alexandrites will now drop from certain monsters outside of Salvage.

Crystals will now stack to 99.

Clusters from Elementals shall break down to 99 crystals.

New recipes for bullets have been added.

It will now be possible to register to receive seals for a specific job for completing regimes in Abyssea areas.

AF3 Base Armor shall now appear in chests scattered across all Abyssea zones. But be careful...

JOB ADJUSTMENTS

Enmity caps will now vary by job. Some jobs shall see an increase in enmity caps, others a decrease.

The A.I. of Automatons has been adjusted.

The following jobs shall receive access to spells:

Dark Knight: Absorb-ATK, Absorb-DEF, Absorb-EVA
Paladin: Flash II
Red Mage, Scholar: Cure V
Red Mage: Tier III Enspells

The formula for the potency of healing spells has been modified, placing a strong
emphasis on the role of the Healing Magic stat.


The following jobs shall receive new traits and Abilities:

Corsair: Solitaire
Dancer: Auto-Regain I & II, Rousing Jig
Dark Knight: Magic Attack Bonus I
Samurai: Kyudo
Thief: Subtle Blow, Triple Attack II

It will now be possible for Puppetmasters to instruct their pets to stand at maximum distance from monsters.

It will now be possible for Beastmasters to charm more large frame monsters.

The skill up rates for the following skills have received substancial increased:
Summoning Magic
Guard

OTHER ADJUSTMENTS

It will now be possible to transport directly to the following areas:
Sacrificial Chamber
Qu'Bia Arena
Horlais Peak
Balga's Dais
Waughroon Shrine
Sacrificial Chamber
Throne Room
Chamber of Oracles

Sanraku shall now give increased Zeni for Soul Plates.

The requirement for having multiple participants for Assault, Nyzul Isle, Salvage, and other event areas has been lifted.

There will be additional Airships and Ferries going between cities.

Monster shall become passive after reaching a certain distance from their spawn
locations.

So much wrong with this it hurts, but its make believe so to each his own, I guess?

Thank goodness SE doesn't do things like this.

[Zyeriis]

If i was too work for FFXI Square enix I would...
delete this thread.

[Rearden]

I like this Tarage guy. He needs to get over to BG.

[Yokoh]

most things you have suggested are things that are time consuming.. which makes this game good. Being able to say 'Yes, I did it'. And as for the EXP changes, you would be saying the same thing to birds if Soulflayers wer fought more on a mass-scale EXP PT type mob, there are many exp mobs out there, that people just dont go to because they arnt good at targeting and finding its weakpoints. lol.. and 'Increased SMN skill up'.. seeing as you're SMN90.. skilling up said skill shouldnt be a problem at all, just abyssea PT with MM atma and use carby and Poison Nails, it does OK dmg, and you will NEVER run out of MP, whilst still being able to heal and buff etc... just saying..

[Panthera]

What the hell are you talking about? I didn't say anything about SE, I was complaining about Lordscyon who seems to think that this is a chat room and he should just spout whatever moronic things are on his mind.


I was simply correcting the flawed view that 'working for video games is fun and easy!' It isn't. Next time why don't you learn to read huh?

Assuming he's not a troll to begin with (and you're taking him very seriously), his question is entirely hypothetical anyway. I don't think he's getting into the hours and pay rates, 401k and health care plans; he isn't really asking about being a real developer. I'm taking this as more of a "what would you do with the game if you could" kind of question, instead of too literally. I think the OP was merely expressing taking joy in actually playing the game, and a commitment to the game itself, so why rain on his parade?

Asking what others would do as developers is a perfectly valid question, and really, is an implicit part of the entire forum. In part, I was using your reply as a platform to vent some design decisions that as a long timer Final Fantasy series player I find frustrating. Mostly, I was just pointing out that there are bigger than you out there, and even they aren't perfect, so experience does not make you "better" than he is, which you seem to need to be. Desperately, I'd add.

So far, you've used the terms,"moronic," "learn to read," and "pathetic," and have condescended to the the OP via how much money he'd make, condescended to myself, and "the vast majority of you," so I was just sticking up for a little guy from a condescending, pretentious, know-it-all bully.



And upon reading your 'adjustments', I just have to give you applause. You don't know a single thing about game design do you? All of your proposed adjustments either fit into 'This is so horrible it would break the game' or 'I hate Abyssea QQ'. God, this is pathetic.

And as for understanding game design, I believe that the greater the challenge, the greater the sense of victory, and with high risk comes a sigh of relief when you don't lose. This game is neither challenging atm, nor does losing mean much anymore. If you think otherwise, the only person that doesn't understand game design is the guy who, ironically, went to college for it, and uses as a platform to look down on others.

Good day.

[Bhujerba]

I get mad when people are wrong on the internet. It's a sickness.
he is probably very young to think that way, getting mad at kids is silly.
______________________________


if I got the job I would turn the server into PvP FFA...
...and watch the world burn and turns into chaos.

[Rearden]

lol owned..

[Tarage]

he is probably very young to think that way, getting mad at kids is silly.

I did say it was a weakness. Still, I feel that children should be educated, not patted on the head and told their ideas are good when they really aren't.

[Panthera]

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It's not even a matter of liking one more than the other. This is an attempt to even out Abyssea allied experience points with traditional 6 or fewer man parties, as the doubling of experience points per mob wasn't enough to accomplish that. I'm sure I'm not alone in wanting Conquest Points or Imperial Standing while making experience points per hour that are as good as anywhere else. Even hard core Abyssea players may not want to use stones and or time on Abyssea. I see no reason why Abyssea and traditional parties cannot co-exist as equals.



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You're missing the point. One of the flaws of the traditional experience points system is that experience points are rewarded based upon the level of the mob, not the level of difficulty of the mob; a Colibri and a Soulflayer should not give the same amount of experience points. Sure, some mobs get a bonus, but I'd like to see more of that. A party can go after easier mobs for a smoother, less stressful party, but they'd get experience points that are appropriate, but still good enough. If a party is brave enough and skilled enough to party on Soulflayers, they should get a ton of experience points.


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Low drop rates do not make monsters easier or harder, just repetitive. The problem with staggers is that it's boring. It's a lot of standing around and waiting for a kill order if you're not doing the staggering yourself. Standing around is not engaging game play. And as far as jobs go, it's said there's only about 5 useful ones right now, but that's quite another discussion.


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I don't see how crystals cluttering up one's inventory has anything to do with supply and demand. By all means, someone please explain it. I regret that I don't think you would be able to so in a civil manner, Tarage, so I'd hear it elsewhere.



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Yes, they will actually. You omitted that healing magic, which White Mage has a high skill in, would play a much larger role. White Mage would caste Cure V with much greater potency, and therefore mana-efficiency, similar to a Black Mage nuking harder than a Red Mage with the same spell (yes, I know that's more about MAB and INT, resistances not withstanding).


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Rousing Jig would be the Raise-Jig that the Dancer community is clammering for. A healing job that can't raise? And as for TP, I see it as nothing more than the equivalent of Summoner getting Auto-Refresh. With the JA SE mentioned, every job but dancer would get regain, so not give it to Dancer natively? At 1-2 TP per tic, which is already possible through other means anyway, I don't see how this breaks the game. At 1-2 TP per tic, quite some time is going to pass before they can do much.


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Yes, it was. It doesn't take a degree in C.S. to see that standing around waiting for 10 minutes for an airship isn't engaging gameplay. As a fishermen, I'd rather wait 5 minutes than 10 for my boat.


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You're misinterpreting the purpose. It's an Astral Flow countermeasure. No more gathering up every last mob in the zone. The range can be just enough so that kiters can do their job.


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Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean that they don't have their own education in gaming and or programming. And what you are missing, sir, is a the ability to disagree without being disagreeable. It makes forums a more productive and pleasant place. You cannot say, "Lordscyon who seems to think that this is a chat room and he should just spout whatever moronic things are on his mind," and then turn around and say things like,"Gonna go cry to mommy?" "asspained," and "WAH" multiple times. One cannot remark upon someone's play skill when you haven't played with them, much less their age and education level when you've never met them. These remarks reflect much less on me, and much more on you. I sincerely hope, for your own sake, that you acquire it.

[Tarage]

And now I see no point in even trying to explain all the things that are wrong with what you just said. It's pretty clear that you have no concept of balance, no concept of what makes a game fun, and no concept of a rational argument. My favorite is the "Astral Flow Countermeasure". That sums up your entire list. Complaints. "They aren't playing the way I want them to play, so they should be forced to."

Keep trying to sound sophisticated though. It's making for great sig material.

[Wagram]

If I worked for SE I would more than likely get fired for putting some of them in their place for the total B.S. they have been pulling these last couple years.

[Greatguardian]

Friendly advice, stop arguing with Panthera. I know you weren't there for the last time someone let him go on about Abyssea, but it was seriously something like 50 pages of absolute bullcrap. I'm pretty sure he still has me on ignore from that, like everyone else he decided he didn't want to listen to.

Edit: I remember what it was. He adamantly believed that playing the game in absolutely any way but the way he felt it should be played was straight up cheating. Yeah.

[Insaniac]

I would feed Tanaka to the Rancor.

[Dauntless]

Destroy them from the inside out...

Or fix the billing system.

[Bhujerba]

I did say it was a weakness. Still, I feel that children should be educated, not patted on the head and told their ideas are good when they really aren't.
I didnt say dont teach them, getting mad doing so over childish dreams is just..

[Tarage]

I didnt say dont teach them, getting mad doing so over childish dreams is just..

I would rather correct them so that they don't have delusions of what the world truly is. That would be harming their future if they believed that they can achieve something that doesn't exist.

And this forum isn't meant for kids. The game has a high enough rating that if you are playing, you shouldn't be considered a child anymore.

[Panthera]

And this forum isn't meant for kids. The game has a high enough rating that if you are playing, you shouldn't be considered a child anymore.

You're right, it's not.

[Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XI FORUM Guidelines (http://support.na.square-enix.com/rule.php?id=20&la=1).]

Does this sound mature to anyone? I thought the bit about breathing water was particularly dignified.

Ridicule is not the same refutation. Paraphrasing does not prove your point. It takes a lot more than a patronizing tone to make you right. I admire your passion--I do--but you don't provide enough reason to persuade. You throw out conclusions without premises and supporting evidence, granting little weight to your pronoucements. Anyone can carry on in this way; it doesn't take a lick of talent or skill. And worse yet, you pick an easy target. Again, assuming he isn't trolling, there's misspellings, grammar issues... he may simply not be, how shall I say, academically inclined? It might be said of me that I'm doing much the same thing, but I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt.

[Meyi]

Kay, nobody cares you guys. I'd say take it to private messages but those don't exist here so...

If I worked for SE I'd implement a private messaging system for the official forums.

I would also hide from the official forums because it looks like people are out for blood with this payment plan business.

[Zatias]

Does this sound mature to anyone?

Not really, and he really should have read the Forum Guidelines. ^^

[Baccanale]

Greetings, everyone!
I just wanted to remind you that it would be greatly appreciated if you remained on topic while discussing matters in a thread. I understand how heated some of these conversations can become, but as long as the conversation stays constructive, the thread can remain open. Thanks again for your participation!