WHM + RDM frames cant cast Haste? LOL

[Geebee]

Why 'o' why cant RDM and WHM frames cast haste or erase, there is no reason for this not to be implemented I have struggled with the poor spell list for PUP from lvl 75, which leads me to never use them, I'm amazed that a 15 level increase (to date) has not seen these simple and low levels spells included.

For that matter why cant the WHM frame have an attachment that scans the ememy's strengths and cast the appropiate Bar spell for the party of the master, RDM frame? where are its Enspells?


ITS NOT A MAGE IF IT HAS LIMITED SPELLS,

I GET BETTER BUFFS FROM MY DAMN NPC

[Dawezy]

Odd ain't it? lol

We *do* have Eraser, but, likes to target itself before the master.

(´・ω・)ﾉ(´；ω；)

[xbobx]

I am ok with it targeting itself especially if getting rid of silence.

[Kristal]

Automatons don't cast Enhancing spells. I suspect this is related to attachments giving something similar to it.
Protect : Armor Plate I/II
Shell : Mana Jammer I/II
Haste : Turbo Charger
* Snapshot : Drum Magazine
* Fast Cast : Mana Booster
Blaze Spikes : Reactive Shield
Enthunder : Volt Gun
Erase : Eraser
Dispel : Disruptor
etc

Ofcourse, it could still cast some basic spells like Protect and Shell on the master at least...

[Yokoh]

What would be cool, is if we can take buffs from our pet to use as our own! Say a 1min JA called.. 'Optical Zoom' or something where we analyze, and subtract the buff.. Just a thought. But i totaly agree with OP, there should be haste and protect buffs etc from automaton.. NPC can do it.. why cant our specific frames?

[Telford]

Giving the automaton buffs (under the current AI) while it sounds good in theory would be almost as bad as a brd automaton.

NPC's can cast outside of battle, so its not as detrimental to your health when they spam protect, shell, blink, stoneskin, auqaveil, haste while running around. If we were to give Soulsoother a similar spellset (single target spells) it would take 5 minutes and 50 seconds standing around deployed on a mob, keeping up the appropriate maneuvers to buff a party with protect and shell (six plus automaton).

If soulsoother cast nothing but haste it could barely keep up a haste cycle (2:55 for party+auto) but it would have to be constantly deployed and it would be casting haste on those that don't strictly need it (like itself).

Erase under the current AI would cripple soulsoother, -na's before cures is bad enough, adding the 20+ status effects that erase can remove we'd never see a cure again.

While Bar-element spells can be useful, what happens when a mob favours two or more elements, and which of the useless bar-status spells will it waste time casting when the mob uses sleep, silence, and paralyze.

For enspells we have volt gun if you really want it, but not being able to cast enspells is the least of stormwakers problems. Until it gets spells past lv 75 (tire IV nukes and maybe cure V) it will continue to keep harl company collecting dust.

Automatons are not (and should not be) total replacements for their player counter part but instead are meant to do the primary function of the jobs role. It's best not to think of them as a WHM, BLM, RNG, PLD, and RDM but instead as a healer, nuker, melee, tank*, and general mage.


* Tank as in takes a lickin' but keeps on tickin', not a hate generating machine.

[Horadrim]

Giving the automaton buffs (under the current AI) while it sounds good in theory would be almost as bad as a brd automaton.

NPC's can cast outside of battle, so its not as detrimental to your health when they spam protect, shell, blink, stoneskin, auqaveil, haste while running around. If we were to give Soulsoother a similar spellset (single target spells) it would take 5 minutes and 50 seconds standing around deployed on a mob, keeping up the appropriate maneuvers to buff a party with protect and shell (six plus automaton).

If soulsoother cast nothing but haste it could barely keep up a haste cycle (2:55 for party+auto) but it would have to be constantly deployed and it would be casting haste on those that don't strictly need it (like itself).

Erase under the current AI would cripple soulsoother, -na's before cures is bad enough, adding the 20+ status effects that erase can remove we'd never see a cure again.

While Bar-element spells can be useful, what happens when a mob favours two or more elements, and which of the useless bar-status spells will it waste time casting when the mob uses sleep, silence, and paralyze.

For enspells we have volt gun if you really want it, but not being able to cast enspells is the least of stormwakers problems. Until it gets spells past lv 75 (tire IV nukes and maybe cure V) it will continue to keep harl company collecting dust.

Automatons are not (and should not be) total replacements for their player counter part but instead are meant to do the primary function of the jobs role. It's best not to think of them as a WHM, BLM, RNG, PLD, and RDM but instead as a healer, nuker, melee, tank*, and general mage.


* Tank as in takes a lickin' but keeps on tickin', not a hate generating machine.

More or less this.

[Niyariko]

I would like to see WHM frame know not to over cure