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Dauntless
07-16-2011, 08:18 AM
First WS's that come to mind are Insurgency and Rana.

Before you bash me, I'm just trying to figure out ways to make DRKs less lol as it's easily my favorite job in the game, but one update SE shoots us in the arm, the next they pour salt in the wound, the next they jam their fingers in it, etc..

Threw SAM in there as well because I think they could use a crit WS to make them less lolSAM inside Aby

Thoughts? Suggestions?

hiko
07-16-2011, 08:23 AM
Extras

Additional Planned Adjustments
Weapon skill refinements
Adjustments to enfeebling magic
Revisions to job-specific merit point enhancement attributes.

can very well bemake some WS able to crit

and furthermore its for lvl95-95 so /goodbye abyssea

Rearden
07-16-2011, 08:24 AM
DRK and SAM are both great jobs already, just not in Abyssea. Abyssea is holdover content until Lv99. These jobs need no changes or a crit WS, they are fine as is.

Dirtyfinger
07-16-2011, 08:30 AM
If you make Rana crit I still wouldn't use it over Fudo, the only WS I would like (For SAM at least) to crit is Penta Thrust.

hiko
07-16-2011, 08:35 AM
If you make Rana crit I still wouldn't use it over Fudo, the only WS I would like (For SAM at least) to crit is Penta Thrust.

yay crited pentas is a killer!!

Dauntless
07-16-2011, 09:04 AM
I sincerely hope Aby will be a thing of the past come 95 cap

Dirtyfinger
07-16-2011, 09:18 AM
Abyssea will be a frequented place for a long long time, definitely past next months level adjustment update for sure!

Urteil
07-16-2011, 09:20 AM
I don't care about a crit WS.

I want actual updates for DRK.

Dauntless
07-16-2011, 09:23 AM
Well yes, I agree that DRK needs real updates but I think giving us a crit WS (For christ sake, we have Critical Attack Bonus!) is a step in the right direction.

hiko
07-16-2011, 09:36 AM
Abyssea will be a frequented place for a long long time, definitely past next months level adjustment update for sure!

for "casual player" or only briefly for new lvled job
lot of players are capped on aby item for their main
+ i hope lvl95 update will bring some better gear

Malamasala
07-17-2011, 04:42 AM
Summoners need a good crit multi hit staff WS also. EX to SMNs, because it would be sooooo overpowering if PLDs or WHMs or DRGs or MNKs could use it, naturally.

Zeroe
07-17-2011, 04:47 AM
Yes, yes, yes! Just make it Critical hit. That's all I'm asking

Atomic_Skull
07-17-2011, 12:30 PM
Yes, yes, yes! Just make it Critical hit. That's all I'm asking

If they give DRK and SAM a critical hit WS it would out damage their empyrean WS. Basically they'd be in the same boat as DRG with a useless empyrean.

A better option would be to just give SAM a low level ability on a short timer (think Boost) which can be subbed which gives your next WS a chance to crit. This would help DRG (it would make their emp relevant) DRK and SAM out without having to change a bunch of WS or make any emps/relics/mythics useless.

Ravenmore
07-17-2011, 12:47 PM
Not having a crit hit WS is not the reason no one is inviting you to NMs and just engaging the mob is enough in lolexp. The more people you do take to the NMs the faster they die anyway so even then it wouldn't do anything for the job not being used outside of exp. Abyssea is done anything that will matter will be outside of it.

I see abyssea becoming the new sky were everyone can go and play.

Sparthos
07-17-2011, 02:41 PM
Even if DRK and SAM had a crit WS, they are missing procs that WAR and NIN have.

Abyssea is all about procs.

Alkalinehoe
07-17-2011, 03:44 PM
Even if DRK and SAM had a crit WS, they are missing procs that WAR and NIN have.

Abyssea is all about procs.

Nah, DRK +NIN can get you all the red procs, granted if NIN has the event Polearm. Still possible.

Ravenmore
07-17-2011, 05:43 PM
Nah, DRK +NIN can get you all the red procs, granted if NIN has the event Polearm. Still possible.

Thats a big "if". Depending on what new gear we get before the nexw level increase if Emp.weapons go past 90 with out a new weapon comes out that comes finished so on that is going to matter not if sam and drks have a crit hit WS. So by time the next halloween event roles around abyssea maybe irrelevant outside of fast exp. Though still having a crit hit WS will still do nothing for getting you in, procing low level WS for red will.

Getting a crit hit WS would be a cop out at this point just to shut people up and make it look like they got something when they only got something in a event that might get left behind.

Elexia
07-17-2011, 05:59 PM
DRK and SAM are both great jobs already, just not in Abyssea. Abyssea is holdover content until Lv99. These jobs need no changes or a crit WS, they are fine as is.

Have you ever played DRK? It's almost as if SE is scared to let us do real non-dot related damage.

Ravenmore
07-17-2011, 06:12 PM
Have you ever played DRK? It's almost as if SE is scared to let us do real non-dot related damage.

Drks shouldn't have zerged down SEs pet mob.