Cadushi Grip

[Nala]

Any one know some hard numbers on this "hidden" or bugged effect? AH has a post claiming it adds about 42 delay which would bump masamune up to 479 delay and 12.9 base tp gain.

this would make it easy to setup a 5 hit and caped haste build, at least assuming this effect was intended.

in any case more concrete numbers is mainly what i care for so i can actually figure out STP/haste build thats optimal. i guess an additional question is if it adds a static amount of delay or if delay gained is a % boost.

[Nala]

Managed to find one up on the AH did some testing with my masamune base delay 437 11.1 base tp return, 14.9 after trait and merit STP.

after running several tests (swapping in varying amounts of STP and checking tp return from 0-300 vs expected values) i found i was gaining 19.5 tp per blow nakked.

after running the numbers backwards this put my total delay at 530ish (14.5 tp base gain) or in other words a total gain of +93 (aprox) delay.

P.S. oh wow... i now have a 4 hit build with my masamune, this has gotta be a glitch/bug

[FioryGriever]

I recently purchased this grip for my DRK w/ Caladbolg and had determined it granted @ least 100 delay based on TP returns. I wanted to test it on SAM and w/ +81 STP in total (missing +2 head, and the body period, as well as the neck piece [SAM isn't my main >.>]) I was getting 26-27 TP swings using my Kikugosaku .. willing to bet I can get 30 TP swings w/ full gear + the new STP buff in the coming patch. The grip is a fun toy atm and is only 200k on Ragnarok, but its prolly a bug the grip itself is total junk beyond that >.>;

[Nala]

With my gear setup +83 stp for TP build and +48 STP on ws, just barely makes a 4 hit though due to the massive delay increase you'll get to 100% tp almost as fast with a 5 hit build (least in my case with the same haste setup) and the option of 5 hitting with capped haste gear still loses out, did my numbers assuming no external haste, just hasso and gear, 4 hit build +22% haste ~530 delay 23.3 seconds to 100%, 5 hit 22% haste 437 delay 24 seconds to 100%, 5 hit 25% haste ~530 delay 27.8 seconds to 100%

only thing is im not entirely certain how the game rounds numbers for attack speeds so these are all calculations based with no intermediate rounding down.

[Invasion]

May I ask what pieces of STP you're using during in your TP set? And yea, it is probably a glitch again.

[Invasion]

Confirmed as a glitch and now resolved.

[Gotterdammerung]

Fixed
-The issue wherein equipping the items Cadushi Grip, Oneiros Grip, or Ossa Grip reduced players' attack speed.

save ur munny

[Nala]

heh still want me to post my tp set? and it was a bit fun playing around with, but you swing horrifically slow x.x

http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/220452 (i dont actually have a moon shade yet)

p.s. edited set, didnt realize the new trait update already hit swapped rose strap for pole strap.

[Ryozen]

I would recommend against using your Moonshade for Regain. Your Fudo will get a much larger bonus from the ATT+4/TP Bonus+25% than you will be able to gain from a slightly-improved TP set.

[Invasion]

You could always TP in Bullwhip Belt instead.

Edit: Meant to quote Nala.

[Nala]

i never said i wanted a regain moon shade, and in order to maintain a 5 hit build i need the goading, currently with my ws gear set i only have a 1 stp leeway and the only peice that fits that description is my brutal, which i intend to continue to full time.

Edit: ah... i see what you mean... hmm... my 1 STP leeway would actually allow for that too... in any case ive had bad luck in the past getting the bull whip so even if i wanted to i cant flip that for the time being, that would probably be a better trade off too due to diminished returns VS exponential returns 2% haste weighs alot heavier then 2% double attack, thanks for the pointer didnt realize myself i had the leeway there >.<

[Malacite]

Fixed
-The issue wherein equipping the items Cadushi Grip, Oneiros Grip, or Ossa Grip reduced players' attack speed.

save ur munny

But just think of all the wonderful keyblades I could buy...

[Nala]

lol too late for me wasted 150k on it, probably be lucky to sell it back for 50, in any case was fun testing it, too bad it was an unintentional effect, though i expected that.

[hiko]

i never said i wanted a regain moon shade, and in order to maintain a 5 hit build i need the goading, currently with my ws gear set i only have a 1 stp leeway and the only peice that fits that description is my brutal, which i intend to continue to full time.

Edit: ah... i see what you mean... hmm... my 1 STP leeway would actually allow for that too... in any case ive had bad luck in the past getting the bull whip so even if i wanted to i cant flip that for the time being, that would probably be a better trade off too due to diminished returns VS exponential returns 2% haste weighs alot heavier then 2% double attack, thanks for the pointer didnt realize myself i had the leeway there >.<

can also use tactical mantle, loose a bunch attack on mele hit, keep DA for WS

[Nala]

well its not like sam is about DPS as much as cranking out ws's asap, 24% 5 hit masamune sounds good to me, only really missing out on the extra chance to double attack really, working towards it and thanks for the help cant believe i didn't notice that myself... was too busy working on other things at the time.

[Gotterdammerung]

But just think of all the wonderful keyblades I could buy...

ur kingdom hearts joke has been noticed.

[Nala]

your sirry, you cant buy keyblades, just new keychains for your keyblade if your a keyblade master, are you a keyblade master?

[Taint2]

With the SAM update you can build a rather nasty 6hit for Masamune.

5/5 zanshin, 5/5 med recast, 5/5 OW, 5/5 iki

Masa/sword//thew
zelus/justice/unkai/brutal
af3+2/dusk+1/raja/mars
atheling/bullwhip/af3+2/aces

Pretty hard to beat esp as you go up in haste. You can swap Mars for Pyrosoul if the acc isn't needed as well.