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If we had the ability to select an NM to become ourselves for other players to battle would you. By this I mean have full control of their job abilities and tactics. I dont see this as having access to what drops just the fun of controlling an NM for fun. IF SE could design it so that the normal drop rations applied and we couldnt control the treasure side, I could see other players wanting to take on the NM.
Zeroe
07-05-2011, 03:19 AM
Lol I love the idea, but your about to get troll'd so bad for it. Im just sayin
Tagrineth
07-05-2011, 06:43 AM
To be perfectly honest, there are several NMs that would become ridiculously more difficult to beat if all they did was spam their most powerful move back to back (e.g. control Apademak and use nothing but Fulmination back to back, or control Shinryu and use the Doom move every 10 seconds, or even that lame Coeurl NM in Aby Attohwa - spam the death move).
Octaviane
07-05-2011, 06:47 AM
Let me be a Skeleton NM with the ability to spam Ice Spikes that can't be dispelled and Poisonga II that cannot be removed by any means. :)
Coldbrand
07-05-2011, 02:37 PM
Isn't this what they do in Lord of the Rings Online?
Leonlionheart
07-05-2011, 06:43 PM
To be perfectly honest, there are several NMs that would become ridiculously more difficult to beat if all they did was spam their most powerful move back to back (e.g. control Apademak and use nothing but Fulmination back to back, or control Shinryu and use the Doom move every 10 seconds, or even that lame Coeurl NM in Aby Attohwa - spam the death move).
You don't think that there would be limitations?
If this was ever seriously considered I'd say it wouldn't be the exact form of the NM, but made to look more like a Job (BLM, RNG, DNC, etc.). So Fulmination would probably have MP cost or something and a recast...
Without limitations? I'd probably want to be Kadraeth the Hatespawn or some type of soulflayer.
Or Tunga. Yeah. Tunga. Constant casting mode, you can have this.
AV, use crapy 2hr till I get in brac mode then cycle bene/inv=>manafont
Birdkiller
07-06-2011, 05:25 AM
I'd be one of the NMs with Mute Aura or a mute attack, and just go straight after the main healer every time.
Korpg
07-06-2011, 11:51 PM
I'd be one of the NMs with Mute Aura or a mute attack, and just go straight after the main healer every time.
See, that is the problem about people, if they control NMs, being able to abuse it.
AI on mobs here don't single one player out. They go after the one who is on the top of the hate list. By singling out one player (the healer or the person that player doesn't like) you can continue to wipe alliances. It would really suck for SMN soloers too. That NM wouldn't bother with the avatar, they would go after the SMN period.
Khiinroye
07-07-2011, 12:01 AM
See, that is the problem about people, if they control NMs, being able to abuse it.
AI on mobs here don't single one player out. They go after the one who is on the top of the hate list. By singling out one player (the healer or the person that player doesn't like) you can continue to wipe alliances. It would really suck for SMN soloers too. That NM wouldn't bother with the avatar, they would go after the SMN period.
That is the point.
2hr zerg fights or opponent pops a brew: Kite upon the use of the 2hrs or brew, making sure to link as many of my buddies as possible, and run through other groups of aggressive (true sight/sound if possible) mobs.
Go for the healers first, and run circles around the PCs to try to avoid attacking from the front.
Eve / Moira: use tainting breath as your ws of choice, preferably on as many stunners as possible. Proceed to use EBB with stunners charmed.
Pixies: Run to the mages and use Norn Arrows every time.
Korpg
07-07-2011, 12:08 AM
Wouldn't that cause failures which could be abused? On both sides?
<Player against linkshell> Hi guys, I'm going to go kill your healer, then your nuker, then your strongest DD all the way down to your tank until you wipe, continuing to kill the healer while they are trying to cast RR up.
<Player for linkshell> Hi guys, I'm going to continue to try to hit the tank, all the while running around in circles and trying to not hit anyone else. If the tank goes down, I'll just go after the backup tank and not follow the hate list at all. I'm going to make sure you guys win all the time too.
Overall, a very bad idea. Almost as bad as a hordecore idea.
That is the point.
2hr zerg fights or opponent pops a brew: Kite upon the use of the 2hrs or brew, making sure to link as many of my buddies as possible, and run through other groups of aggressive (true sight/sound if possible) mobs.
Go for the healers first, and run circles around the PCs to try to avoid attacking from the front.
Eve / Moira: use tainting breath as your ws of choice, preferably on as many stunners as possible. Proceed to use EBB with stunners charmed.
Pixies: Run to the mages and use Norn Arrows every time.
If people came in with these strategies then it would be up to the player(s) to counter it. It was after all meant as fun. We could even do away with the treasure pools. After all when you all have all your weapons and armor what you going to do.
Raxiaz
07-07-2011, 12:19 AM
It was meant to be fun... and it does provide discussion. Never would've taken it as a serious suggestion. But ok Korpg.
I would wanna be Raja. Royal Decree x100000 (which is by the way over 9000)
Korpg
07-07-2011, 12:20 AM
If people came in with these strategies then it would be up to the player(s) to counter it. It was after all meant as fun. We could even do away with the treasure pools. After all when you all have all your weapons and armor what you going to do.
Not everyone has their gears in the fight.
For those who have everything, they help others get everything. That is what I do.
Besides, it would really cause backups for those who still want to get stuff. People would be poping as Gukumatz and the following 2 scenarios will take place:
LS claims is not in the same shell as the person poping: Will run into the Pestites and Bugards until enough people to die where claim goes yellow and have the people in the same shell claim for KI.
LS claims is in the same shell as the person poping: Gukumatz will turn its back on the players and let them proc red/yellow and let them kill him for KI/seals.
See the abuse?
Korpg
07-07-2011, 12:24 AM
It was meant to be fun... and it does provide discussion. Never would've taken it as a serious suggestion. But ok Korpg.
I would wanna be Raja. Royal Decree x100000 (which is by the way over 9000)
It would be fun for some players.
But it would be abused wholeheartedly. Unless one thing happens:
The Colosseum. Keep the fights in there, and there would be no abuse outside, and those who really wish for this to happen (and not abuse it) can do their fights there.
Tsukino_Kaji
07-07-2011, 06:26 AM
Tom Tit Tat.
Karbuncle
07-07-2011, 09:24 AM
If someone controlled an NM and I popped a brew, and it Ran, I'd introduce them to Cyclone :P
(Psst, Its a ranged Magical attack XD)
Tsukino_Kaji
07-07-2011, 09:35 AM
I always wanted to be able to charm LL and parade him around the zone.
Pikel
07-07-2011, 09:37 AM
I would want to be Xibalba. That was such a retarded NM I'd like to be on the side that only dies once for a change. lol