Maintenance on EUROPEAN/US TIME GAMING [Archive]

Etoilemourante

06-29-2011, 02:32 AM

Ilisidi

06-29-2011, 02:36 AM

If you are paying the € price, currently you are actually paying more than the JPs. If you are paying the $ price you are currently paying less than the JPs.

Europe isn't a country.

Korpg

06-29-2011, 02:41 AM

Etoilemourante

06-29-2011, 02:41 AM

If you are paying the € price, currently you are actually paying more than the JPs. If you are paying the $ price you are currently paying less than the JPs.

Europe isn't a country.

You understand me when i say country... the important think or message , its stop think JP are gods and others are noobs who only pay pay pay...

JP dont like play with US or EUR too but make *** competition... dont understant too why not server JP only, US only , EUR only, or ENGLISH only and JP only languagues sound better...

after 7 years FF , alots ppl finish to dislike JP players ! happy not JP race... when see english no tkx and others comments 1/2 racist... or ppl JP who totaly ignore tell, but when need raise or help, speak perfect english...

Here problem are the FU maintenance ! 5H maintenance start 6PM for 11PM... maintenance are needed for game work fine, but not needed do it ONLY out JP time playing...

Etoilemourante

06-29-2011, 02:44 AM

You know that expansive piece of ocean between the western coast of North America (California coastline in case you aren't geographically knowledgeable) and the eastern coastline of the great nation of Japan has at least 5 time zones in between those two. Why not make it so maintenance only hits the "prime times" of those 5 time zones?

i know have not only 3... my english not very good so i try simplify message.... split on 3 or 12 i dont care ... but stop avoid JP time ! and 100% for EUR time... and US who play too on this time... or just need ppl EUR/US dont play more FF in futur ?

Greatguardian

06-29-2011, 02:44 AM

Because it has absolutely nothing to do when the technicians and developers who are all in Japan are able to take the servers down and work on them during their work day, amirite? It's obviously a ploy to inconvenience everyone else in order to make sure the Japanese game time is undisturbed.

What tripe.

Daniel_Hatcher

06-29-2011, 02:48 AM

i know have not only 3... my english not very good so i try simplify message.... split on 3 or 12 i dont care ... but stop avoid JP time ! and 100% for EUR time... and US who play too on this time... or just need ppl EUR/US dont play more FF in futur ?

People that do the maintenance do it as a job, thus they do it in their working hours.

It's annoying I agree, but it can't be helped.

Korpg

06-29-2011, 02:49 AM

You understand me when i say country... the important think or message , its stop think JP are gods and others are noobs who only pay pay pay...

JP dont like play with US or EUR too but make shit competition... dont understant too why not server JP only, US only , EUR only, or ENGLISH only and JP only languagues sound better...

after 7 years FF , alots ppl finish to dislike JP players ! happy not JP race... when see english no tkx and others comments 1/2 racist... or ppl JP who totaly ignore tell, but when need raise or help, speak perfect english...

Here problem are the FU maintenance ! 5H maintenance start 6PM for 11PM... maintenance are needed for game work fine, but not needed do it ONLY out JP time playing...

[Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XI FORUM Guidelines (http://support.na.square-enix.com/rule.php?id=20&la=1).]

Why would a Japanese company do maintenance during the time-frame of their largest number of subscribers and their "prime-time"? There are fewer players during the European Prime Time, so they schedule their maintenance to start during that time so it would affect the least number of people. [Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XI FORUM Guidelines (http://support.na.square-enix.com/rule.php?id=20&la=1).]

Paksenarrion

06-29-2011, 02:53 AM

All Worlds Emergency Maintenance

I'm sure that there's something that they feel requires important fixing. While I'm not opposed to 33% rotation of each country getting the maintenance during their time, you do have to think of the employees of SE and what times they're available, and plans for any emergency techs they have to call in.

Ilisidi

06-29-2011, 03:11 AM

Since the work day of the technicans was brought up. The servers are in Japan, the technicans are in Japan. Does 1am to 6am really fall into the normal work day for Japanese workers? Wouldn't it rather be sometime between 8-18 (23 to 9 UTC)?

Delsus

06-29-2011, 03:11 AM

*sigh* not this again.

Basic business tactic, the largest number of people play in Japan, the least play in EU they try to inconviniance the least amount of people, ie EU players.

Thats the reason they do it it just business nothing racist at all.

/thread here.

Malamasala

06-29-2011, 03:12 AM

Why not make it so maintenance only hits the "prime times" of those 5 time zones?

Probably because "prime time" is from 10 AM for people who do not work, and 6 PM for people who do work. So it is always "prime time" for someone. Personally though I wouldn't mind if we had maintenance during the day so that kids had to go out and play. Now it always hits evening when you want to relax after work.

RAIST

06-29-2011, 03:16 AM

They've actually been trying to keep it somewhat balanced I guess. This one kicked off around midnight their time, lunchtime on the US east coast, 9am out west. So, it is actually more likely to be a reasonable time for services to be down for the US and JP.

Just sucks that EU usually gets stuck in the middle, loosing at least half their primetime most all the time. But there isn't much to be done when you are dealing with 5+ hour maintenance cycles I guess.

Until they find a way to reduce the downtimes, it's going to be a mess.

Riggs

06-29-2011, 03:21 AM

I live in Europe and been playing since the US release and i agree the constant timing of maintenance (planned) hits us right between the hours of 6pm to 11pm. Which for those of us that work wipes out play on that day completly.

Fair is fair and its really about time someone else had a turn at this.

wish12oz

06-29-2011, 03:22 AM

What the heck?
Its like midnight-5am in japan when most maintenance occurs, stop saying they're doing it during normal business hours.

They just schedule it for after JP prime time, plain and simple. Why they do this, I do not know because they have never said, but I would be willing to bet its because that's when the least amount of people are actually playing the game, even though on every server I've ever been on this is not the case, the real time the least amount of people are playing is actually right before JP prime time.

Korpg

06-29-2011, 03:29 AM

They just schedule it for after JP prime time, plain and simple. Why they do this, I do not know because they have never said, but I would be willing to bet its because that's when the least amount of people are actually playing the game, even though on every server I've ever been on this is not the case, the real time the least amount of people are playing is actually right before JP prime time.

That is probably true.

And dang it, mods edited my last post! I was just joking >.>

Tamoa

06-29-2011, 03:32 AM

That is probably true.

And dang it, mods edited my last post! I was just joking >.>

I read it before it was edited, I'm EU, you reeeeeeally hurt my feelings! :P

Arcon

06-29-2011, 03:33 AM

Why not make it so maintenance only hits the "prime times" of those 5 time zones?

This.

Because it has absolutely nothing to do when the technicians and developers who are all in Japan are able to take the servers down and work on them during their work day, amirite?

People that do the maintenance do it as a job, thus they do it in their working hours.

If that was true, it would mean the average Japanese technician's work day is from midnight to about 6AM. I don't know a whole lot about Japan, but that seems a bit weird even for their standards. I'm fairly certain it's to avoid mainly JP and secondly NA prime time, which were the first places it was released for, and still hold the bulk of the playerbase. If, however, japanese technicians don't mind bending their sleep schedules for profit, it would be best to do it at around 4AM~6AM. That's out of their playtime altogether, after EU prime and before NA prime time, at least before EU events usually end (excluding certain Abyssea stuff) and before NA events usually start.

I read it before it was edited, I'm EU, you reeeeeeally hurt my feelings! :P

He didn't say anything against all EU. And I approve.

RAIST

06-29-2011, 03:52 AM

If, however, japanese technicians don't mind bending their sleep schedules for profit, it would be best to do it at around 4AM~6AM. That's out of their playtime altogether, after EU prime and before NA prime time, at least before EU events usually end (excluding certain Abyssea stuff) and before NA events usually start.

This... and make it a consistent thing. Outside of emergency maintenance (which is what they classed this one as), they should kick off all maintenance in the same time frame, on the same day of the month...like the 2nd Tuesday of the month at 0:00 GMT (take it's cues from the big companies like IBM, MS, etc....they've been doing this for ages). Maybe midnight GMT wouldn't be best... but you get the idea.

This way everyone knows when it's going to happen, and can plan their events accordingly. Whether it is a 5 hour or 11 hour maintanence window--you know well enough in advance that an update wil happen on that day, and can simply not plan to do any major events that night.

JackDaniels

06-29-2011, 03:57 AM

Tsukino_Kaji

06-29-2011, 03:57 AM

Riggs

06-29-2011, 04:02 AM

its funny that they even managed to time this "emergency maintenance" from 4pm to 9pm gmt.
Common do they really think w believe they can plan and carry out 5 hours of maintenance at the drop on a hat. They must have planned this for at least 12 hours before starting it, and if they could wait that long why not 8 hours more.

JackDaniels

06-29-2011, 04:04 AM

I dont even understand why people are complaining about this. If SE was North America based it would perform its maintenance during JP prime time.

Madine

06-29-2011, 04:10 AM

Runespider

06-29-2011, 04:13 AM

When you have a 24 hour service you try your best to schedule maint in the time when th eleast players are online, EU prime time is that time. If these were weekly maints then you might have a point but they are so infrequent you are just being a whiney baby.

I'm from the EU and I accept how it is, I would rather the current situation than no maint at all.

Zyeriis

06-29-2011, 04:29 AM

This "emergency" maintenance is likely due to what happened sometime between midnight and 4am EST last night. The search function completely crashed on Phoenix, couldn't check LS member list, friend list, do any type of search, inviting people was hard as well. There were several hiccups with the search feature during the day prior to this as well. And no, this was not just me, it was everyone in linkshell and there were shouts about in Port Jeuno (because theres always shouts in Port Jeuno).

Summary: It took them hours to perform "emergency" maintenance. Interpret as you will.

JackDaniels

06-29-2011, 04:32 AM

Yes that's exactly what happened Zyer, I think it happened on all servers. The AH was down as well.

Kimble

06-29-2011, 04:34 AM

Any maintenance that wasnt scheduled and announced a week or so an advance has always been considered "emergency" maintenance.

Really shocking people havent picked up on this after so many years.

wish12oz

06-29-2011, 04:35 AM

Didn't they have a go at rotating maintenance periods a few years ago? Am I just remembering someone's wishful thinking at DiV? If they did, what happened to cause this to stop?

/Since I can't find the PM functions here: wish12oz, who did your sig image?

There's no PM function for whatever reason, and I made it.
bit more here: http://guildwork.com/#/albums/4dcda008205cb223670057bd

Arcon

06-29-2011, 04:48 AM

There's no PM function for whatever reason, and I made it.
bit more here: http://guildwork.com/#/albums/4dcda008205cb223670057bd

I didn't even realize you adjusted the picture size. Now I can finally say that it's awesome.

Etoilemourante

06-29-2011, 06:31 AM

I dont even understand why people are complaining about this. If SE was North America based it would perform its maintenance during JP prime time.

If SE was US , he need dont save all US time too... i dont have problem with any communauty but start to be tired of JP prior for all... its strange he can work on server midnight to 6am.... in my land technitien dont work night time... so its only for JP's ppls not miss 1 sec game....

maybee need down price for ppls who are victims to maintenance and full price for ppl who dont are...

spiro

06-29-2011, 06:37 AM

http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/guide/development/census/10/index.html

JP midnight = Highest login time

EDIT: for that week

Alhanelem

06-29-2011, 06:47 AM

Need STOP do maintenance ONLY when JP sleep !!!!!!!!!

i'am tired pay same price JP's and get all maintenance in face and JP never see any maintenance... !!!! JP more imporant others? cant make system turn?

Really need stop this *** and make turn 33% for each country !So you're saying they should do maintenance during the times when the most people are online? Okay, makes a whole lot of sense. The maintenance is done during our daytime because more japanese play and thus the service is overall less disrupted by maintenance when the fewest people are online.

lowkey

06-29-2011, 07:28 AM

I live on the east coast. The maintenance began at noon here, so it would have been mid-morning on the west coast. That's hardly prime time for either coast.

Etoilemourante

06-29-2011, 07:28 AM

So you're saying they should do maintenance during the times when the most people are online? Okay, makes a whole lot of sense. The maintenance is done during our daytime because more japanese play and thus the service is overall less disrupted by maintenance when the fewest people are online.

you dont understant me... i say make rotation maintenance... for fair , if maintenance are 3 or more rare cause do when we sleep too, its less pain for everyone , exepted JP cause he never see any maintenance on 9 years...

i dont think the US ppls and EuR ppls are very low players vs JP... and US + EUR ppls are more ppls vs JPs only...

Rotate make 1 maintenace each 3 month maybee for each communauty.... and not 100% for same communauty.

Etoilemourante

06-29-2011, 07:30 AM

I hope have 1 SE guy who respons me... and not only players... each GMs say me its true its very annoyne and encourage me to come here post and try get SE teams change this...

Kimble

06-29-2011, 07:34 AM

lmao, I highly doubt a GM said that.

lowkey

06-29-2011, 08:53 AM

you dont understant me... i say make rotation maintenance... for fair

The fair is the thing that comes to town once a year. They have poorly maintained rides, rigged games, artery clogging junk food-like substances, and herpes ridden carnies lording over it all. It's a lot of fun.

SE is a business. They make decisions like this based on what's best for their bottom line. What's best for their bottom line in this case is avoiding irritating their largest subscriber base, as much as possible. Sucks to be in the US during maintenance, and sucks even more to be in Europe, but that's just how it's always worked, and always will work.

Etoilemourante

06-29-2011, 09:10 AM

lmao, I highly doubt a GM said that.

Sure i am 1 liar! GM are player too... and GM who talk french/english are too annoye with maintenance... so dont trust , i dont care... i post this for have discution with SE, not with ppls who think ppl are retard enought for lie....

Etoilemourante

06-29-2011, 09:15 AM

The fair is the thing that comes to town once a year. They have poorly maintained rides, rigged games, artery clogging junk food-like substances, and herpes ridden carnies lording over it all. It's a lot of fun.

SE is a business. They make decisions like this based on what's best for their bottom line. What's best for their bottom line in this case is avoiding irritating their largest subscriber base, as much as possible. Sucks to be in the US during maintenance, and sucks even more to be in Europe, but that's just how it's always worked, and always will work.

its too good for businnes i never start 14 and when FF11 are end... i dont go back in other JP Moorph or other game who favorize any land... IRL are cool too if WOW do same shit. or futur games...

Kimble

06-29-2011, 09:18 AM

Ok, if you dont care about anyone has to think/say about this, then close topic. A rep can still reply to you if they wish.

Daremo

06-29-2011, 09:41 AM

http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/guide/development/census/07/index.html
http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/guide/development/census/08/index.html
http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/guide/development/census/09/index.html

Looking at past Census results... Japanese Midnight is consistently the time with the highest number of logins. The time with the least logins is mid to late morning in Japan.

...

Rage

Wait, pause rage... Thinking about it a bit, if JP midnight is the peak login time, that also makes it the beginning of the decline, which typically leads to the JP morning nadir. So if they're aiming to work through the nadir, rather than start then, it makes a little more sense. Midnight is still early enough to be awake, waiting 2~3 hours for logins to drop off would result in a less alert maintenance crew, and if it goes long, be more likely to run into the lesser peaks of the spread out US primetime.

UnRage

Ok, so Europe is mostly boned by circumstance, rather than ill intent. Cutting off right at, or just after the peak time is massively counter-intuitive, but there is sense to it.

Etoilemourante

06-29-2011, 12:47 PM

Ok, if you dont care about anyone has to think/say about this, then close topic. A rep can still reply to you if they wish.

i just dont care of you Kimble... IG or here...

Constructive post np, post for you say i lie or other , dont need it...

I look for see if others Ppls share my think and more got SE ppls who give me respons, and not shit excuses : technitian work only on night on JP... i want SE take 1 official position on this...

Kimble

06-29-2011, 12:59 PM

You should prob post in the EU forums then if this is an EU issue, Further more, there are french forums there so you can speak in your native language so what you are trying to say is easier to read and makes more sense.

Byrth

06-29-2011, 01:06 PM

Yeah, it's kind of bullshit to complain about this after seeing the census. Doing it in JP primetime would piss a lot more people off than EU (lol, that dip) or NA (pitiful hump) primetimes. I don't like being locked out either, but they're obviously aiming to piss off as little of their playerbase as possible when they schedule maintenance. You want maintenance to be JP time, recruit some friends in Europe and boost EU primetime.

Octaviane

06-29-2011, 01:54 PM

I hope have 1 SE guy who respons me... and not only players... each GMs say me its true its very annoyne and encourage me to come here post and try get SE teams change this...

I seriously doubt that a GM told you to do that.

If you can't be without your FFXI fix for 5 hours you are in serious trouble. Maintenance wasn't scheduled to annoy you or anyone else, it was done for a reason and scheduled as quickly as possible.

Korpg

06-29-2011, 01:57 PM

Anyone know what the e-maint was for today?

Tsukino_Kaji

06-29-2011, 01:57 PM

Anyone know what the e-maint was for today?Auction house crashes I think.

Korpg

06-29-2011, 01:58 PM

Auction house crashes I think.

That it? Man what a waste of a 5 hour maint.

Zyeriis

06-29-2011, 05:08 PM

Anyone know what the e-maint was for today?
What i posted on page 3:

This "emergency" maintenance is likely due to what happened sometime between midnight and 4am EST last night. The search function completely crashed on Phoenix, couldn't check LS member list, friend list, do any type of search, inviting people was hard as well. There were several hiccups with the search feature during the day prior to this as well. And no, this was not just me, it was everyone in linkshell and there were shouts about in Port Jeuno (because theres always shouts in Port Jeuno).

Summary: It took them hours to perform "emergency" maintenance. Interpret as you will.

Delsus

06-29-2011, 08:23 PM

If SE was US , he need dont save all US time too... i dont have problem with any communauty but start to be tired of JP prior for all... its strange he can work on server midnight to 6am.... in my land technitien dont work night time... so its only for JP's ppls not miss 1 sec game....

maybee need down price for ppls who are victims to maintenance and full price for ppl who dont are...

It is business tactics to schedule server maintanance (or any maintanance that requires nework outage) for the time that least affects the running of the business, example if you work as a network technician or engineer for a UK bank, you arent going to take the network offline for 5hr maintanance at 1pm because it causes the bank to millions of £, $, euros, yen w/e currency you use each hr, you therefore schedule the 5hr maintanace for night time when it will have a small effect on the running of the network.

FFXI is differant though, they cant schedule maintanance when no one is using the servers, so they look at thier records and check what time the least people play which is EU prime time, then if all the EU player rage quit over it theres less effect on SE than if all the JP players rage quit if maint was in JP prime time.

Etoilemourante

06-29-2011, 10:46 PM

It is business tactics to schedule server maintanance (or any maintanance that requires nework outage) for the time that least affects the running of the business, example if you work as a network technician or engineer for a UK bank, you arent going to take the network offline for 5hr maintanance at 1pm because it causes the bank to millions of £, $, euros, yen w/e currency you use each hr, you therefore schedule the 5hr maintanace for night time when it will have a small effect on the running of the network.

FFXI is differant though, they cant schedule maintanance when no one is using the servers, so they look at thier records and check what time the least people play which is EU prime time, then if all the EU player rage quit over it theres less effect on SE than if all the JP players rage quit if maint was in JP prime time.

And after SE try got more player EUR... maybee need try again... EUR ppls are not sheep... and when unfair, just go other games... no one rage if maintenance was 1/3 or 1/5 time on prime time, but when is 100% yes... specialely when surprise on event time...

Runespider

06-29-2011, 11:07 PM

Most EU players don't really mind that much about it.

Zatias

06-29-2011, 11:22 PM

I think that they should just stop maintenance for good, it always takes time out of someone's paid play, somewhere.

Really though, it may seem biased but if you think hard enough about it, it's really not. And by the way, you should probably cool down before typing next time (@ OP), it makes people's eyes hurt when you smash keys like that ; ;

Korpg

06-29-2011, 11:48 PM

And after SE try got more player EUR... maybee need try again... EUR ppls are not sheep... and when unfair, just go other games... no one rage if maintenance was 1/3 or 1/5 time on prime time, but when is 100% yes... specialely when surprise on event time...

If you are really that angry about it, make a formal complaint instead of crying about it on this forum.

There are proper ways to do things here.

Eri

06-30-2011, 01:09 AM

Sorry for not readng through all of this.

I think SE should like check thier own Census now and acording to that they do every Maintance during a prime Period for EU/NA while the proper times with less loging would be JP.

Sorry again if this was mentioned before. But its kinda bugging me. As thou honestly..... its not a big Deal.

Korpg

06-30-2011, 02:11 AM

Riggs

06-30-2011, 03:00 AM

Its great how the people who are never effected by this and coming on saying whats the big deal, i bet half these people will be on here moaning if some thing in game happened that affected their game play.

Kimble

06-30-2011, 03:18 AM

It doesnt matter when Maintenance is done because its going to affect someone so there is no point in crying about it. Take the time off to do some house work, read a book, watch a movie, whatever. If its the end of the world to you because you cant play a game for a few hours, you need some help.

Zero-Hour

06-30-2011, 03:38 AM

I do have to say I agree with this somewhat. Here in the U.K, maintenance always hits from 17:00 - 22:00 which effectively denies a whole days play, for those who play in the evening. Often, when one maintenance occurs, an "emergency" one happens within a few days to fix all the bugs discovered once the previous update went live.

We seem to get maintenance at least every month, with the often second installment a few days after. This might not seem like much, but adding this up at 2 per month = 24 per year, roughly translated to 11/12 months playable for 12 payments. SE were very quick to refund us all a whole month when unforseen circumstances knocked the game out for 10 days, but we miss out a lot more than that simply due to our timezone.

I fully understand that SE's largest playerbase is in Japan, but it would be nice if they would play fair occasionally. Why not start maintenance at 06:00 Japan time sometimes, then maybe 09:00 or 12:00.

That would affect other parts of the world as well, but would at least not Always deny play for the exact same group of players.

Kimble

06-30-2011, 03:58 AM

Its business. Who do you upset? The Majority or the Minority when clearly no matter what, someone is going to be upset.

Riggs

06-30-2011, 04:43 AM

The most annoying thing about the maintenance is that SE will not even comment on this or even accept our concerns. I also know from experience on other mmorpg that no community rep will comment on this thread as they know that any comment will only add fuel to the fire and many of us will not accept their comments trying to pawn us off anyway.
So we rage here even though we know its useless.

Arcon

06-30-2011, 05:12 AM

Its business. Who do you upset? The Majority or the Minority when clearly no matter what, someone is going to be upset.

I think the people pulling this argument out of somewhere are simply blind. The census shows extremely clearly that maintenance happens at the busiest time of all (JP midnight, all JPs are still online, NA noon, they're just waking up or the students are online, EU prime time, all EU events). Also note that those are just the highest login times, meaning they actually stay online a bit longer than it says on the diagram, so the whole thing should be effectively right-shifted. Just by doing it three hours later would be a lot better to reduce overall loss of play-time and it would benefit all the major timezones, except for those poor souls logging in from the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.

Etoilemourante

06-30-2011, 06:23 AM

Removed message.

Kimble

06-30-2011, 06:35 AM

Is that suppose to a personal attack just because I dont agree with what you are saying?

Runespider

06-30-2011, 06:46 AM

not for show my gears

I don't think people really do that much anymore, people hang around port for many reasons. Showing off easy to get gear is rarely one of those :/

Kimble

06-30-2011, 06:49 AM

I just like how Pirate kitty looks :(

katz

06-30-2011, 06:53 AM

As Im sure most of the working people would love to have no system to work on during their working day, Im not sure any business would have a server up and running when their people were asleep only to have it taken offline when they all showed up to work. Its not about which countries turn is it, its basic economics. Business managers dont pay people to sit idle.

Etoilemourante

07-03-2011, 10:10 PM

SE official respons can have it?

Mirage

07-04-2011, 08:13 AM

I'm from europe and I don't fucking care. Is FF11 the only game you play or something? Just do something else.

Octaviane

07-04-2011, 10:32 AM

Anyone know what the e-maint was for today?

It was also to update Forum access and was finished ahead of schedule at 13:20 hours.

katz

07-04-2011, 10:59 AM

Im EU too. Please make all maintenance in EU times and reduce EU fees for the inconvenience of having maintenance in our time zone. Personally I accept it has to be in EU time zone because of the time zone difference.

Eri

07-04-2011, 08:45 PM

Its not a lot of an inconvenience really. And yes i'm EU. BUT i would like to see some compensation for it too!
Make it so that everyone wants the maintance on their timeframe! XD I'd love to see that :P
Gimme like a 'Maintace Robe' that has 'Under Construction' written on it lol would make up for it lmao!

Etoilemourante

07-06-2011, 08:11 AM

SE repons can have it?? or SE policy is not to respond to this delicate subject??

Kimble

07-06-2011, 09:37 AM

Don't do to this what people did to the relic thread.

They will respond if they have anything to tell you, if not, you just look annoying and more likely they will not respond to you.

Tamoa

07-06-2011, 07:04 PM

I'm EU aswell. Although it's slightly annoying sometimes that the maintenance is always scheduled late afternoon/early evening for me, it's certainly not annoying enough for me to whine about it on this forum. SE have their reasons for scheduling these maintenances when they do, I honestly don't even care what those reasons are.

To the OP: pestering them for a response to this thread, just makes you look bad.

Korpg

07-06-2011, 11:41 PM

You know, maintenance disrupts others also.

It is summer vacation for college students now, and I still have to deal with maint. when it occurs.

But you know what I do? I finish reading a book, start a new one, play a different game for a while, do some housework, whatever to keep me busy.

Complaining about maintenance is a sign of dependency towards this game. You shouldn't let this game rule your life like this. Unplug every once in a while and discover the world around you.

Because next year, the world is going to change, for the better, and for the worst. I'm not talking about that whole "Mayan Calendar" BS that seems to be spooking everyone now, I'm talking about the new accounting rules that are going to take place that will cause both frauds in the international markets and stronger businesses in both international and American markets (see what happens when you unplug? You get to see what is going to happen in the future and become more knowledgeable in your own personal field of expertise).