Why wasn't the game designed like this?

[Shiyo]

The tomes we currently get from running dungeons would give "Rusted/molded/tattered" gear and you'd need to gather items from mining/botany or buy them off the AH, as well as acquire drops from beastmen strongholds, which are instead full of elite/dungeon enemies that take 2-4 players to kill(or a very skilled/geared soloist) and they never leash and chase you for a very very very long time, almost forever, while also patrolling around the zones and buffing each other without being engaged. You'd then take the beastmen drops, the tattered/rusted/molded gear and some gathered materials to a crafter who would finish your product for you(could add a window like melding that let someone take all your mats and synth them for you so people wouldn't steal your stuff) and could be HQed, as well as melded with materia. They should also edit the materia system and add more unique materia as well as fixing the stat caps but not completely removing them, allowing us more customization with how we gear. Make all the drops sellable as well, for a more thriving economy.

Could also add token gear for crafters and gatherers so they could have ilvl 70/90 gear too and you could potentially play the game as ONLY a crafter/gatherer. Add some super high level materials in beastmen strongholds that require ilvl 90 gear to gather and are used for ilvl 90 stuff too.


What would this accomplish? It would make all forms of content relevant, dungeons, raids, outdoor zones, crafting, gathering, and materia would be more useful, there would be more gear customization, more theorycrafting, a better economy and a much more enjoyable game(IMO). It would also be a complete unique experience like no other game using systems already in the game, just simply expanding them.

[Maddox]

I say give Gatherer's and Crafters some freaking battle skills.

Oh how I would love to Pick an enemies eye out as a Miner.

Vengeance for all those 1.0 Antling kills I suffered.

Yes ladies and gentlemen, SHINIES do kill.

[Sylve]

So in other words, you want a system that makes massive profit for you, the crafter/gatherer, and simply costs non crafter/gatherers their life savings for a single piece of gear?
Because the moment you give crafters that sort of power, you can bet on the prices for even the most mundane materials required for these items would shoot up to millions per single item.

Not to mention the "LF Armorer to make ____ with my mats" followed by "yeah ill make it, but it'll cost you a massive amount of Gil or I'm not doing it"

What we have now is fine. More dungeons that drop Tomes would be nice, and I am fairly certain the 2 new Hard Mode dungeons and the brand new dungeon will all drop Tomes.

[Ahtos]

great idea but casual ppl will start QQ ^^

[Kraggy]

What would this accomplish? It would make all forms of content relevant, dungeons, raids, outdoor zones, crafting, gathering, and materia would be more useful, there would be more gear customization, more theorycrafting, a better economy and a much more enjoyable game(IMO). It would also be a complete unique experience like no other game using systems already in the game, just simply expanding them.

No, you over-exaggerate wildly.

What it will do is give crafters a stranglehold on gear progression and make everyone level a craft or be at the mercy of price-gouging crafters. I realise this is what you want but don't insult my intelligence by trying to make out this is some massive 'leveling the playingfield' idea.

great idea but casual ppl will start QQ ^^

Because it's 'hardcore' to level a craft now?

LMAO.

[Shiyo]

Not to mention the "LF Armorer to make ____ with my mats" followed by "yeah ill make it, but it'll cost you a massive amount of Gil or I'm not doing it"

You would want people in your FC to have gathering/crafting leveled, so instead of recruiting people with ONLY battle jobs for end game dungeons/raids, you'd wanna recruit crafters and gatherers too. You'd also wanna make friends with them, like you'd make friends with healers or tanks or DPS. It creates a stronger community as well, because you can't cross-server craft and have to actually make friends, help people, and be nice/respectful, which isn't done very often in the duty finder and you can't really make friends with people you'll never see again.

I currently have friends and a FC where we all have different crafts and gathering jobs leveled, we all make stuff for each other for free and give each other mats for free. It's nice, we helped each other out leveling our crafts and now help each other gear our jobs.

[ilJumperMT]

Actually crafted gear is better then Darklight, but it costs more tomes.

[Jayded]

SE doesn't do this cause they like making money, by having a playerbase.

[Huginn]

Because it's 'hardcore' to level a craft now?

LMAO.

Dude, have you even read any of the posts about why people think it is OK to bot because gathering is too hard/boring and that crafting doesnt get FATEs so why bother? Apparently crafting to level 10 is super hard core, even though it can be done in about 15 minutes with less than 5k gil right inside the guild.

[Jinko]

I kind of like the way Vidictus does its gear.

You complete dungeons to farm craftable items which later you have an NPC make, the difference with FFXIV is that you could have crafters make the item.

You could either sell the craftable drops on the marketwards to make profit or get a friend/FC member to make the item for you.

There is so much potential for this, for example a requests board where you could look for a crafter to make an items.

I'm not saying take away all dungeon loot but the dev team have stripped crafting of all purpose in ARR.