For Square-Enix Petition: Duty Finder - Ditching Team Penalty

[TaruPower]

+1 on at least a one hour penalty for leaving and potentially a /votekick option. (Of course, being kicked wont incur a penalty.)

[_Archangel_]

+1 on at least a one hour penalty for leaving and potentially a /votekick option. (Of course, being kicked wont incur a penalty.)

i like this one.

[_Archangel_]

90 minutes is a long time to waste, not because people aren't "pro enough" but because they can't realize their own mistakes... If you're dying to red zones a lot there isn't much that needs to be said except MOVE...

i'm done talking to you. you will never understand if you wont think outside the box.

[Vadis]

God I hope they do NOT add penalties, there are too many reasons to leave parties and too many reasons why this would end up destroying Duty finder as is.

adding more votes or other party managing tools would already barely change anything in the experience, once they eventually add the ability to replay a dungeon with the same group much of the issues from bad groups will dissolve already a lot.

what they need to add to reduce even more bad duty finder parties is actually giving us a local party finding tool that would replace the player search.

The just need to have something similar to duty finder for server wide search and filtering, giving us the ability to see what parties are seeking members, who is looking for which dungeon and so on...

giving us a way to keep tabs on who is a valid player to party with in our world will help a heck more then trying to add crippling penalties.

[ispano]

Most people here DO understand. The problem is the mentality you have is, punish the wrongdoers, who cares if innocents get punished too. There's nothing perfect that can be done. You're either going to punish innocent people needlessly, or bad people will get away with some things. The current 15 minute penalty, also common in other games with a Content Finder, is meant to be a compromise.

[Zumi]

Anything longer then 15 min wait would just lead to a AFK i am going to wait till you leave war.

[Shiyo]

There's a simple solution to this:

Stop relying on the duty finder to get things done. Make friends, make a LS, make a FC, join a LS, join a FC, use shout.

[_Archangel_]

so how do we fix this leaving the dungeon issue?

[Tiraelina]

Most people here DO understand. The problem is the mentality you have is, punish the wrongdoers, who cares if innocents get punished too. There's nothing perfect that can be done. You're either going to punish innocent people needlessly, or bad people will get away with some things. The current 15 minute penalty, also common in other games with a Content Finder, is meant to be a compromise.

I've yet to see anyone you could remotely consider "innocent" be the first to ragequit out of a dungeon. Most of them being DPS that can't comprehend their role includes threat management. Usually turning it into a blaming war because the healer is having a harder time.

Anything longer then 15 min wait would just lead to a AFK i am going to wait till you leave war.

Because that isn't already happening without vote kick.

[Fyrebrand]

I believe there is a penalty for being the first to leave a dungeon. It's 15 minutes or something, isn't it?

And because there's a penalty for leaving, it has proven to be an invitation for trolls to:
- enter a dungeon and just go AFK at the entrance
- insult/harass their teammates, and intentionally wipe the group over and over
- glitch out certain boss rooms by preventing anybody else from advancing in the dungeon
- ceaselessly provoke others and refuse to help with anything, knowing that if anyone wants to leave it is going to cost them a time penalty

And they'd still do this even if there were no artificial penalty inflicted on the first to leave, because they still delight in the knowledge that everyone else will just have to enter the dreaded queue again if they want a dungeon.

Knowing this is currently a widespread epidemic in Duty Finder, you want to increase the penalty to three hours!? You're basically designing the game for trolls now, you realize that, right?