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    Kommunist's Avatar
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    Crossbreed Priscilla
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    Tonberry
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    Marauder Lv 50

    Warriors - How to fix our damage mitigation

    Simply don't.

    In fact, reduce the penalty on Defiance, tweak it internally so our dmg output is behind dps classes but MUCH higher than paladin. Don't homogenize the classes/jobs, you wanted to make us a high risk high reward tank right? Then do it right!
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    Aeria Scarlet
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    Ultros
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Warriors are a high risk no reward class. Even if you did same damage as a DPS it is completely negligible in progression, it is not the tanks job to meet the DPS checks.
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    Side Kick
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    reflect x% is the best way i can think of for the tank to mitigate damage and maintain threat
    shame its not there
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    Just that tweaking Defiance is the simplest solution i think, and it will actually give us the damage difference that should of been there to separate us from paladins.
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    Lotharius Lionheart
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Everyone keeps measuring themselves to Coil when in fact gear is missing in the game in order to do the content properly. Wait until Crystal Tower comes out and you will probably see them on par.
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    Ahlen Cross
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    Bake the +heal into defiance, increase it to 25%, turn Inner Beast into a shield (Or a heal that heals for a % of the damage you took in the last X seconds)

    Done, warriors fixed (probably!)
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    Plushiee Porschie
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    Did not roll a tank just to be a half baked DPS/DD.
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    Takamori Maruyama
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    Ok every thread I will make this propaganda, lets post on TGS thread and force an answer from the Dev Team, I'm not even sure if they read these forums.
    So its empty tears if we just , sorry for being blunt, make theoretical masturbation regarding our flaws.

    We need to be efficient on what we want.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...er-LIVE-at-TGS!

    The thread, well by all means don't want to discourage the discussion of how to tweak warrior, but if you want something done you need to be listen.
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    Last edited by Takamorisan; 09-19-2013 at 03:56 PM.

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    Aeria Scarlet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inosaska View Post
    Everyone keeps measuring themselves to Coil when in fact gear is missing in the game in order to do the content properly. Wait until Crystal Tower comes out and you will probably see them on par.
    Based on what? There is no significant difference in stat scaling for the two classes, it is the base abilities that give paladin a major advantage.

    When you see all pug groups and guilds saying LF paladin instead of LF tank you know there is something wrong...
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    Ramsez Ristelen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inosaska View Post
    Everyone keeps measuring themselves to Coil when in fact gear is missing in the game in order to do the content properly. Wait until Crystal Tower comes out and you will probably see them on par.
    do you realize that paladin can tank coil with ilvl 70 gear? paladin doesn't need to wait for CT
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