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    [Theory Crafting] The formula for Quality increase (control) and a TOOL !

    If you just want the tool :




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    Tool Updated!!
    You can now test your rotation on a completely simulated environment. Input your crafting rotation and your stats and the program will attempt to run it 1000 times.
    And then it will display the % of HQ items you got, the fail rate and your average CP left after your rotation.

    Now the complicated part :


    It's not a linear formula, it's a rank 2 polynome.

    Here's the default equation for standard item :


    f(x) = 3.4275521095175201e+001 * x^0
    + 3.558806693020045e-001 * x^1
    + 3.5279187952857053e-005 * x^2

    Knowing that :

    - Good = 150 % bonus
    - Excellent = 400% bonus

    So overall :

    Quality increase = f(control) * efficiency * state bonus.
    Where f(control) is the polynome.

    Examples:

    Control 341 :
    Standard touch/Normal state = 157.58 * 100% * 100% = 158 (rounded)
    Standard touch/Good = 157.58 * 100% * 150% = 236
    Advanced touch/Good = 157.58 * 150% * 150% = 355

    Also :

    Control = Base Control + Base Control * 0.2 * Number of inner quiet Stacks + Base Control * 0.5 * IsInnovationOn (1 or 0 is innovation is on)
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    Last edited by Mandrakia; 09-25-2013 at 07:34 PM.

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    I'm surprised this is not a function of your level? Or is this formula assuming a level 50 character and level 50 item?
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    Level does impact crafting.. As when i Use ingenuity II on a 1 star recipe there is a HUGE difference to progress/quality. That being said, this program seems to have settings for that?
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    The formula posted is for a normal item.
    There is a Level malus indeed it's a 5% malus per touch per level above yours if the difference is superior to 3.
    So for a lvl 28 item if you're 25 you'll only have 85% efficiency on touch, 80% for a lvl 29 item etc..

    For star Items and Star Items with ingenuity these are 2 other formulas.

    But Ingenuity 2 is useless for quality increase, Ingenuity 1 does the same job
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandrakia View Post
    The formula posted is for a normal item.
    There is a Level malus indeed it's a 5% malus per touch per level above yours if the difference is superior to 3.
    So for a lvl 28 item if you're 25 you'll only have 85% efficiency on touch, 80% for a lvl 29 item etc..

    For star Items and Star Items with ingenuity these are 2 other formulas.

    But Ingenuity 2 is useless for quality increase, Ingenuity 1 does the same job
    Not sure that it's useless as I only use ingenuity 2.. but it doesnt make any sense that it would be. Either way Ingenuity 2 is well worth the little bit of extra CP spent, as i often weave between Qual/Progress on Star 1/2 recipes.
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    Updated the OP, added a new awesome feature to the soft to test your rotation against 1 star/2 star items!
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    comes up with an error when I try to use.
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    Sorry there's a bug, you need to put a number in the : Number of turn to apply trick of the Trade (put 1)
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    Just to let you know, your work on this tool is much appreciated! Thanks<3
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    Tool updated, cleaned up the UI a bit and added a button to load your stats directly from the game if the game is running and you've got the crafter class equipped.
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