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    Redsock's Avatar
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    Red Sock
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    Adamantoise
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    Archer Lv 70

    Bard limit break does not make sense

    Why do archers/bards queue in duty finder as a dps but get a healer limit break. I have gotten in a few parties where we have double arher/bard which means no dps LB. I know bard is suppose to be a support style dps with our songs, so why don't we have a MP/TP full restore LB or something. Throwing us in with the healers LB is useless...
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    Silvyaniss Lydileera
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    That's because the Bard class as it stands is very confusing, not very well put together, and needs another branch class like "ranger". As it currently stands it has problems....I'm like almost there and I am having second thoughts about even unlocking the Bard class and with good reason it's a waste of a support class that others can do way better. Square Enix has been hearing this since Beta but so far the only change they made was the conj to Pug change NOT ENOUGH....this class (bard) needs to go back to the drawing board. What they have done is pigeon holed this class into certain situations =lazy
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    Red Sock
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    Adamantoise
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    Archer Lv 70
    Yea I am lvl 40 now and I only go bard to do the job quests. Archer is way better for soloing, as I can still use my conj shared cure, and the songs are a net dps lose to the 4 man parties as we have to take a -20% dmg penalty to use them. I love archer, but not in party play as they are designed. The up side though is that they are crazy good at kiting.
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    Vaelarian Sunflash
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    Midgardsormr
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    Archer Lv 33
    I'm hoping they give us a new limit break since they have reduced our our support elements so much. I really wanted to play bard because other dd classes weren't that appealing to me. The seemed like such an important role for raiding. Now, I'm not so sure.
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    Belle Chanson
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    Goblin
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    Archer Lv 31
    bard isnt that bad yea the limit break is not so great and yes im only a level 30 but you still have 2 stackable ticks blood letter can combo into alot of things your looking at it as a support/dps instead of a dps with slight support abilities thats just my opinion tho
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    Lunar Emerald
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    Leviathan
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    Reaper Lv 90
    I agree. It's stupid and it's gonna cause issues when bosses are designed with the offensive limit break in mind. If Archer queues as dps then it should have a dps limit break. I hope Square comes to realize this folly.
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    Actually as a bard i found pretty useful that lb. My 2 cents are that winning isn't a matter of speed, but of smoothness. Having 2 classes that can do big healing if needed in a party, with a big tanking lb and a big damaging lb is perfect in my opinion. Healers are squishy, and shit happens. Having a bard who can do a big saving healing while he and the other dps pummel the boss, is useful. Mostly think that Bard should do only dps, nothing else. I've seen very few bard actually use songs, shift between them, thinking "omg the -20% dmg is sooooo bad!", forgetting how about the healer will love you for all the mana regained, the dps will love for the tp regained - you too will love that - and such. Doing the right thing at the right moment, is a Bard job. Nothing else.
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    Silvyaniss Lydileera
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    Balmung
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    Archer Lv 50
    Yah but Bard has now gone way of the Pugilist this is the new concept and the future of the ARCH>PUG>BARD
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    Kyto Thorne
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by theJaguar View Post
    I'm hoping they give us a new limit break since they have reduced our our support elements so much. I really wanted to play bard because other dd classes weren't that appealing to me. The seemed like such an important role for raiding. Now, I'm not so sure.
    ...?

    They will definitely be important in raiding. Why would you not think so.
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    Knosian Ardellis
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    Cactuar
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    I'm not convinced that its a useless limit break, though I'll admit I haven't been in enough higher dungeons to even advise on this. It does seem a bit weird that a DPS classes limit break is a heal, though.
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