This is sad.

[Godshelp]

[Deleting]

[AyaneKiwara]

Back around the time I was working on my first title, we had some major issues crop up towards the end of development. It was just a small team of us. About 10 total. Only two programmers though, myself being one of them. Due to how many hours I had been pulling, and the sheer frustration, it about brought me to tears. I've said to several of my friends, during various tirades that the truth of the matter is likely that the developers have reached the point of tears due to how things have been going. This problem is exponentially worse than what I was facing at that time. I can't help but feel for them.


The venom that has been coming out of our community is shameful. I get the "we're the customer!" stuff, but being a customer does not, in any way, give anyone the right to lash out in such a fashion. Expressing your feelings is one thing, but personal attacks are down right juvenile, and as above, quite sad.

This isn't personal, its business. No matter how much you or anyone else may want people to stop complaining the simple fact is this: People have purchased a product and are unable to use that product. They can not play an alternative measure or under alternative means without going against exactly what SE has asked them not to do.(Which is asking the NA/EU server players to not play on the JP servers)

Except, there have been personal attacks.

Also, they didnt ask us to not use a different data center, to my knowledge. The info, found here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...he-LIVE-Letter

states "So let me make it clear that we're not separating the worlds by language. For those who want to play with players outside of their region, they will have the choice of selecting a world that's located in another region."


also, http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21691113 You can see the video there. There arent translations. You can likely find those somewhere, but here you are.

[d4rkie]

Apparently Yoshi-P even teared up on the stream they did today

Here, a screenshot of the stream.

[Black_Rose2012]

I actually agree with OP. I mean this poor guy is working his arse off for us and what do we get to show our appreciation? Complaint after complaint. Yes, I know we paid for it and no, I'm not saying to take the game how it is. No, I do agree some of you guys. We paid for this game and we do deserve a good product. The thing is that the game is complete and it's an amazing game, it's the servers that's the problem. They didn't think we were going to like this game, they didn't anticipate this many NA/ EU gamers and as such the servers started to act up. But I think all the negativity coming from our side of the server is really hurting their morale. I think if we show them a bit of support from us, it can make them feel that finishing this game for us is worth it. So if this makes me a "White Knight" for defending them, then I'm DAMNED proud to be one. Because I know that a bit of support can help them in the long run, because I think they need it...

EDIT:

I think we should flood the English Forum with GOOD threads, show the team how supportive we are of them. Also, if we do this, DO NOT answer or reply to any people who want to fight. Just keep posting good things!

[Black_Rose]

What's with people and the need to tell everyone they're ashamed of their Community based on the Rage that is currently going on.
Here are 2 facts
1. Every Gaming Community reacts the same.and if there is a smooth Start, there will Be something else to bitch about.
2. You don't have to read these boards if the mere sight of a bitch/hate/disappointed thread grinds you gears.

Either deal with it or do something Else with your free time, easy as that

[lvltwo]

I feel for Yoshida and his team because of the amount of work they have put into the game. But the complaints that are occurring now are something that developers of all sorts have to develop thick skin on. Its not personal against Yoshida because of who he is but what his job is. At the end of the day it is Yoshidas job as producer to ensure that players are able to play the game. And right now due to technical issues players can't play the game. As much as Yoshida and his team are probably freaking out, it shows a lot of what they have done for SE, FF as a title, and the amount of interest they have been able to generate into the remaking of the game when there is and was the massive amount of damage that the original version of this game caused to not only SE as a company but FF as one of its Flagship titles.(As well as the importance of the FF title itself to SE) As hard as it may be for Yoshida right now he should be proud that he has as many angry people as there is over the current issues. He has made people who wouldn't have even cared about the game from what 1.0 was care and want to play what he has made 2.0 into.

They released a product to international consumers. This isn't personal, its business. No matter how much you or anyone else may want people to stop complaining the simple fact is this: People have purchased a product and are unable to use that product. They can not play an alternative measure by playing offline or under alternative means without going against exactly what SE has asked them not to do.(Which is asking the NA/EU server players to not play on the JP servers)

Except, there have been personal attacks.

And angry people say stupid shit? That doesn't change anything. WoW developers and producers have been dealing with it for 9 years, and the EQ developers before then, and the Never Winter Nights developers before even then. Angry people say stupid shit. Its a fact of life. You can't really lump everyone into a category because select people go to a sever and start making jokes about WWII or attack a developer. Because if thats the standard then it has to work both ways for SE showing favoritism to its JP community which was more then proven in FFXI. In WoW a Community Manager by the name of Tseric literally had to quit his job or was fired because he couldn't handle dealing with the community and that was back, way back, before TBC was even in the works.

Also, they didnt ask us to not use a different data center, to my knowledge. The info, found here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...he-LIVE-Letter

states "So let me make it clear that we're not separating the worlds by language. For those who want to play with players outside of their region, they will have the choice of selecting a world that's located in another region."


also, http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21691113 You can see the video there. There arent translations. You can likely find those somewhere, but here you are.

I didn't recall saying they made the request based on language. I believe they made the request to limit the amount of excess traffic on the JP servers that would hinder that portion community from accessing the Data Center that is for that portion of the community. NA/EU players just as the JP players prefer to play within there own language restrictions. (<--- This is worded poorly. The point is regardless of cross communication or comparability for language of the game players are naturally going to segregate themselves to their own communities.) And hey I will even throw in the obligatory I'm not sure if that was actually said so I may be wrong on that. But either way it still doesn't change the point of what I was saying. The NA/EU community would have to compete with the JP players for there Data Center slots and server access (which would be a major issue) in order to have access to the game. And considering that there are more players locked out from playing then there are those capable of playing or actively playing, yes, the issue remains the same.

And I may be wrong but I do believe the Peak times for the JP servers and NA/EU servers do overlap. So all it potentially does is expand the issue to another Data Center.

[Zadawn]

What's with people and the need to tell everyone they're ashamed of their Community based on the Rage that is currently going on.
Here are 2 facts
1. Every Gaming Community reacts the same.and if there is a smooth Start, there will Be something else to bitch about.
2. You don't have to read these boards if the mere sight of a bitch/hate/disappointed thread grinds you gears.

Either deal with it or do something Else with your free time, easy as that

This is not WoW, it is Final Fantasy, there are different expectations from this community.

[Argurios]

Yoshi you are my hero! Take it easy brother <3

[Veillette]

Here, a screenshot of the stream.

I really wish for a downvote system for these forums

泣くぞ = gonna cry / is crying
やばい = this is bad
よし泣きや--- = yoshi cry ---

[Galione]

This is not WoW, it is Final Fantasy, there are different expectations from this community.

yeah I remember FFXI's community. Very seldom would I not get help from someone if I didn't know something in game and was confused. Even in game people are just bashing one another in shouts when someone asks a question. I've blacklisted alot of people in game due to the fact I don't want their negativity around me. If someone asks about something either respond with the answer to the best of your knowledge or just ignore the question. No need for "Quit being a crybaby and just walk north you spoon fed whiner" that's a quote from today when I asked what was next after my completed quest because on the right of my screen was not the usual "click here and the location will be shown" quest text. I've never shown malice to someone in game until that moment.