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    Shadow Moonwolf
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    Conjurer Lv 50

    Stats & Bonus Points

    As FFXIV:ARR is about to kick off, I am looking to see thoughts and opinions on how the revised WHM class will change point allocation style of the old WHM of 1.0. Any Long Time Legacy or 1.0 WHM's have any good insight on where to place them?
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    Rain Starfall
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    Odin
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Didn't play 1.0, but with cleric stance points in INT seem worthless, that pretty much leads to pie mind or vit if your really gunning for that extra HP. I don't know if anybodies done the math for calculating mp costs (its based on your mp iirc?) so until them tests are done I personally will be taking the extra potency from mind which also doubles up as more INT for nuking with cleric stance up.
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    Ladio Amira
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    All 30 points into MND.
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    Sebastian Aru
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    That's why I really don't like this point system. What does it really add to the game if it's only optimal to put them all into a main stat? if anything it gimps the Arcanist who can branch into a healer or caster dps.
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    Ladio Amira
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastianaru View Post
    That's why I really don't like this point system. What does it really add to the game if it's only optimal to put them all into a main stat? if anything it gimps the Arcanist who can branch into a healer or caster dps.
    You'll be able to re-spec your points and most people will favor one over the other.
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    Tandy Thorne
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    I must say, for most jobs aside from tanks, the points are worthless. Everyone just puts them in primary stat and forgets about it. All this does is gimp arcanist. Tanks have some choice, but not enough to even warrant them IMO.

    They should just give everyone the extra 30 to primary stat as you level up and be done with it.
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    Ferth Fontaine
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanWulfen View Post
    You'll be able to re-spec your points and most people will favor one over the other.
    But they've already stated that changing your stats won't be something you can do on a whim and this ideology flies directly in the face of the "play anything you want" style that the armoury system is supposed to foster. The current stat distribution system is little more than an illusion of choice.

    The real kicker though is that those 30 stat points probably won't make any real difference to your ability to complete content... it's just going to make people who play arcanist a little uneasy that sometimes they will play a class that feels like it can't ever be optimal.
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    Greeneyed Sue
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferth View Post
    stuff that made me exceed the character limit
    Forgive my ignorance, however if you get your stat points allocated every however many levels, what does where you put your stats as a CNJ have to do with where you put your stats as a GLD (or anything else)? I know for fact that the points I put into MND when I was conjuring did not end up in my MND when I was... Gladiating?

    At any rate, I don't think where you put your stat points will have any bearing at all with your stats as another class.

    Edit: Oh, I get it... you arcanists and your "I can slot dps or healing soul" dilema
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    Last edited by Myrdyn_Wyldt; 08-23-2013 at 12:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferth View Post
    But they've already stated that changing your stats won't be something you can do on a whim and this ideology flies directly in the face of the "play anything you want" style that the armoury system is supposed to foster. The current stat distribution system is little more than an illusion of choice.

    The real kicker though is that those 30 stat points probably won't make any real difference to your ability to complete content... it's just going to make people who play arcanist a little uneasy that sometimes they will play a class that feels like it can't ever be optimal.
    Looks like your Summoner will have some extra healing power then.
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    Ophelia Payne
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    Malboro
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I chose Mi'Qote Keepers of the moon for the 23 MND base stats. Considering that I have Cleric Stance, I'm thinking of just dropping points into more MND, VIT for survivability, and possible some into PIE in case I have mana issues. I'll have to see how my mana issues are for sustained fights, but other than that, MND and VIT all the way.
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