Can we have an area with no transportation in the future?

[Azurymber]

While I completely understand the whole concept of instant transportation, it removes the feeling of a "huge world of danger and intrigue"

There was something special and emotional about ffxi. For example, having to run to Rabao on your own. You had to go through a dangerous tunnel, run through two deserts, and then in the middle of this hostile area was this pretty little oasis town.
Or having to get norg by traversing through the jungle labyrinths.
Even CoP requiring you to complete missions and run through a zone before you could access the tavnazian safehold.

SE has always been great at eliciting emotion. And that's one of the things that set final fantasy apart from a lot of other shallow RPGs. The world's they created were ones you -wanted- to explore. And when you ran through a wartorn area with sadness only to find a cute little village hidden in the middle of nowhere, it felt beautiful.

Even in FFXIV 1.0, the first time i managed to get to that one town west(?) of Ishguard, the one that was never used for anything really, felt amazing. I had to get past all these mobs and died multiple times (this is back in open beta), before finally managing to get through the cave.

I've always liked the idea of hidden towns, beautiful areas (ex. statues in caves), amazing places to fish or gather, and hard-to-get to places in games. For example, one of my fav spots in ffxi was in yhotar jungle by a waterfall type area, where you had to travel all the way through ifrits cauldren to reach it. And there were some quests associated with it making it really cool (as it was nearly impossible to get there solo early in the game).

FFXIV could really benefit from -some- things like that. And I realize people these days are accustomed to insta-porting everywhere. But i don't think it would hurt to have -1- area, or part of an expansion, without the teleportation. Where it feels like an accomplishment to reach certain towns or areas, and it really feels "out of the way". It would just add a nice emotional touch. And a lot of creativity could be put into it, creating an emotional experience and adventure that players would never forget.

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[Alhanelem]

You can have it, but a year later everyone will be demanding that this characteristic be removed from it because they've experienced everything there is to experience about it and are tired of walking across it. Not trying to be a killjoy here, but that's whats been happening for ages in XI. People explored the area once, now they just want to get where they want to go fast.

[EinSoFZ]

You can have it, but a year later everyone will be demanding that this characteristic be removed from it because they've experienced everything there is to experience about it and are tired of walking across it. Not trying to be a killjoy here, but that's whats been happening for ages in XI. People explored the area once, now they just want to get where they want to go fast.

You're likely right. Anyone that's played FFXI can likely recall waiting 20-25 minutes for a new party member to arrive because they have to actually traverse deserts, plains and caverns to reach the location of everyone else. Even with teleport, the travel made certain aspects a plain bitch. At the same time, instant travel means you don't ever really get to see much of anything besides that near where you're going. Surely there can be a balance between the two such that there's journeying and times where quick travel is appealing too.

[Kirito]

You're likely right. Anyone that's played FFXI can likely recall waiting 20-25 minutes for a new party member to arrive because they have to actually traverse deserts, plains and caverns to reach the location of everyone else. Even with teleport, the travel made certain aspects a plain bitch. At the same time, instant travel means you don't ever really get to see much of anything besides that near where you're going. Surely there can be a balance between the two such that there's journeying and times where quick travel is appealing too.

Well isn't the current teleport system a nice balance? You can teleport to which town you want to go but it cost anima, which take forever to regenerate by itself. The taught people to be careful on how you spend it and allowed more use of air ship and chocobo. I know I alway used air ship to travel between cities instead of teleport, and walked to the camp if it was relatively close. They even had an endgame event to regenerate anima quickly called hamlet. Having it as an endgame event allowed players to play most of the game before getting easy anima. You even needed a knowledgable party and good planning to get the 100 anima run. Now I do think we should have 1 free teleport area world in the center of each area like we have now. One in Mor thoma and coerthas because there is now air ship to get to them so you'll almost "need" to teleport there. The one high lvl areas like camp blue fog and the like in the center of each area would be nice to be free for those with no anima due to poor management or some other reason so it wouldn't be so harsh for the players...

[Linkurrra]

You can have it, but a year later everyone will be demanding that this characteristic be removed from it because they've experienced everything there is to experience about it and are tired of walking across it. Not trying to be a killjoy here, but that's whats been happening for ages in XI. People explored the area once, now they just want to get where they want to go fast.

I can agree with you there, however I can think of a interesting feature from WoW that made this better!

WoW had soul stones (I'm sorry if the name is wrong it's been awhile) that 3 players in a party would touch and you could instantly teleport the party member to your location! It takes the whole traversing across desert, ferry and airship out of the equation and had a cool effect and story too!

The only drawback with this system is you could only do it at instanced dungeons where the soul stones were located.

I would like to see a mobile version of it for all players. Maybe even make it craftable and you would have to have the stones on you to preform the ritual to bring the player to your location. To make it less of a pain the the arse, you only need 1 stone which you can break and split out to 2 other party members. So that you only need 1 person to have it, preferably the party leader! And each stone would have 3 time use before running out of charges and needing to get a new one! 3 times usage should be plenty to fill a party after having 3 members already to use the stones. (I just like to see things get added to the game for crafters/gatherers, Purely optional)

The other way is you just have stone on your character and 2 other players and you preform a ritual to summon the player to your location.

[Shurrikhan]

You can have it, but a year later everyone will be demanding that this characteristic be removed from it because they've experienced everything there is to experience about it and are tired of walking across it. Not trying to be a killjoy here, but that's whats been happening for ages in XI. People explored the area once, now they just want to get where they want to go fast.

Allow reverse-teleports only then (summoning)? The only people who are going to be concerned with the wait times are your parties when needing to work in the same area. Maybe when some 10 levels too high for the zone, allow teleports across it, but there's no reason for people to insist on removing the experience just because *they're* done experiencing it.

[Solace]

Personally I always felt like instant warp was just implemented because the original team didn't think of anything better and it was easy.
I mean what easier way to do it? Click a button and poof.. No additional coding required.
No mounts, no airships, no...
When you start adding a lot of "no's" to a game, it has the results of ffxiv, before ARR.

From what I hear, they may even have personal airships in store for us though..
Would be a childhood dream come true for me.
We know mounts are coming and that will help.
If they make travel interesting, people won't dread doing it..
They will actually look forward to it..
Imagine that...

[Mikita]

I hope that the way the maps start blank and unfold as you move through them will bring some of the feeling of adventure and exploration that people feel 1.0 lacked.
(Although I'm sure there will quickly be full maps online after the first few days and people will start referring to them instead of discovering for themselves)

I also wouldn't mind some limitation on the ability to teleport someone to a place they had never been to before.

But after the first couple of times running through it, a big zone without any sort of fast travel option would just turn into a major annoyance for most people.

I used to run around Eorzea all the time and never went under 80 anima ever. But when people are waiting for me I prefer to get there as quickly as possible and having teleport points nearby was very nice.

[Volsung]

I definitely have mixed feelings on this subject azury. I too played XI, and played it from launch. I loved exploring things for the first time and believe me when the stones with our god's symbols popped up I was one of the people looking for them lol!

I really think the new camps are going to be distanced almost well enough apart that teleporting to them will then let you run to your destination, just like teleporting to a crag then running to where you want to exp or event. The problem I see is anima, which I usually have enough of, but tweak it too much and we either have too much or too little.

having said that, if they want to make areas in the future that branch OFF OF the maps that have camps, and dont have camps to teleport into.... I'd be totally fine with that.

[Xatsh]

Limited warp I am a fan of. Say maby a few spots in each area.

I am complexity against the ability to warp everywhere... turns the game almost into a lobby/server situation.

My vote is give us 1 warp to each main area / subarea and have a mount rental or something at it. I do not like the free warps to every camp in the game.