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  1. #501
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loggos View Post
    we all know that there are far more guys playing girls for aesthetic than girls playing boys so if friends of different rl gender want to have an ingame wedding the chances are quite high that both chars are females due to the miqote love (nothing wrong with miqotes though ).

    I think this logic goes well for both sides - a binding shouldn't exist or should be allowed regardless of sex or gender, for delicacy sake since it seems SE isnt prepared to make a stand it should be called something else (while the visual theme may be the same). The fact SE had to ask for a vote shows that they are either undecided, unprepared, or dont give a damn :P lol.

    It would be really exciting for SE to release gender, age, and location distributions in relation to gender and race of in game. How many manthra's to mithra's are there really? lol

    I wonder when they will ask us (or if they are going by our representative's reports of the forums).

    Quote Originally Posted by Colvin View Post
    I think ancient rome would compare same-sex marriage to child pornography and we arent much far from there, honestly.
    What about the older man to younger boy relationship often existing in Roman society :P? (Though I prefer comparing greeks over romans, not for the sexuality reasons though lol).
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    Last edited by Shougun; 11-13-2012 at 06:09 AM.

  2. #502
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colvin View Post
    I think ancient rome would compare same-sex marriage to child pornography and we arent much far from there, honestly.
    Wrong! Roman males were allowed to practice homosexual relationships without a loss of standing or masculinity~
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  3. #503
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nix View Post
    Wrong! Roman males were allowed to practice homosexual relationships without a loss of standing or masculinity~
    no that is my point... as the relationships were often with young boys. what I mean is that they would have found them comparable to the point of indifference, so in a very real way they were the same because there was no distinction.
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  4. #504
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyph View Post
    I see it from a business perspective. People who are opposed to same sex marriage generally are more volatile when they don't have their way.

    Keeping marriage opposite-sex only: Very little loss in subscribers.

    Adding same-sex marriage: Potentially thousands of subscribers lost.


    Most people who are pro same-sex marriage would not react to opposite-sex only marriage in the same way people who are a anti same-sex marriage would react if same-sex marriage were to be added. Especially since same-sex marriage hasn't been entirely ruled out, giving proponents hope.

    tl;dr the reaction by opponents of same-sex marriage is much more emotionally charged than the other way around.
    I think it would be the other way around.
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  5. #505
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colvin View Post
    no that is my point... as the relationships were often with young boys. what I mean is that they would have found them comparable to the point of indifference, so in a very real way they were the same because there was no distinction.
    Oh~ I totally thought you were speaking of CP as in the stigma it carries today and not then D: lol
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  6. #506
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    Its not even an issue. Let people marry which ever character they like regardless of gender.
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  7. #507
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colvin View Post
    no that is my point... as the relationships were often with young boys. what I mean is that they would have found them comparable to the point of indifference, so in a very real way they were the same because there was no distinction.
    I don't get it, what does the opinions of Ancient Romans have to do with our own?
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  8. #508
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    Square-Enix is going to remove the possibility of marriage. For one thing, it's silly. For another, it is completely obvious that this is an extremely sensitive issue. Why would they want to do it either way? Allowing gay marriage will offend people, and not allowing it will offend people. Best solution? Nobody wins
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  9. #509
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    I don't get it, what does the opinions of Ancient Romans have to do with our own?
    I guess if you think the opinions of every culture and time everywhere are no to do with ours... but we could say that the opinions of Americans are vastly different than those of Asian cultures (of which has quite a bit to do with this discussion). My point speaks more to the fact that what you believe is really entirely in the eye of the beholder so pretending that an opinion is better because of the country or culture you are in is better, is a little short-sided.

    I have friends that believe in "poly-amory", which most of America would believe is terrible along with plural marriage, but do I say that it means my views are better than theirs? Not at all/
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  10. #510
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    This has gotten WAY out of hand. This should not be about religion or morals.

    If YOU think it should be... I ask you to refer to my earlier post about cross species marriages.. should those be allowed also?

    and please dont say this is a fantasy game and that does not count... because you will be making my point for me.
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