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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxthunder View Post
    Regardless of what you say will happen, it is a system so that the lazy can buy their way to the top w/o putting very much effort into the game. Now if someone has everything they want why would they stay? Whats the point in playing? friends?
    You sort of answered your questions yourself. It's "reason". No one of sound mind would "buy their way to the top, then abandon the game for lack of content".

    Let's assume someone isn't the brightest and does act this way: That is a player you don't want to stay anyway. He leaves on it's own. How would he have friends ingame? As you stated, he bought his "way to the top". No player interaction needed.
    (Sarcasm: even though i still don't know which vendor is offering DL-gear and relics.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Maxthunder View Post
    Lets not make XIV like every other standard MMO out there, lets make XIV unique and different period!!!
    Now here's something that really amuses me: XIV is exactly as you don't want it to be.
    It's a standard MMO by all means! If you disagree, what makes this game differ from other avatar-based mmo's regarding game mechanics?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gokulo View Post
    Great, informative topic. Thanks Abriael and others that some very good posts here.

    At the same time my frustration while reading it was reaching critical levels. I always forget how there's a big part of FF community is it's own kind of breed, allergic to logic and facts. It's like we are in the Dark Ages....

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    We brought this thread to Yoshida's attention and here's what he had to say:

    This is an interesting idea.

    However, we are currently aiming to get a solid monthly subscription base for ARR. I previously mentioned this in interviews, but there are various types of business models and new business models still being introduced, so once we establish the proper monthly subscription base, we will look into other business models.

    So with that said, we can't really say whether or not we will do it currently.
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    Bethany "Rukkirii" Stout - Community Team

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    Great, thank you very much, Rukkirii
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gokulo View Post
    Great, informative topic. Thanks Abriael and others that some very good posts here.

    At the same time my frustration while reading it was reaching critical levels. I always forget how there's a big part of FF community is it's own kind of breed, allergic to logic and facts. It's like we are in the Dark Ages....

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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    ah, i didnt think of it that way,lol. who would spend 1000's to do the relic quest then quit. I call BS on that. either the guy is fake or he didnt quit.
    You don't think he got 7/7 relics and saw there was nothing left to do in the game? I'm sure he'll be back once 2.0 comes out but I'm guessing there was really no reason for him to continue logging in other than to help other people all day every day, which understandably might get boring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukkirii View Post
    We brought this thread to Yoshida's attention and here's what he had to say:
    Thanks Rukkirii.

    Can we now let this topic die a natural death? If Yoshi feels it is viable and beneficial to the game he reserves the right to implement it.
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    SE response - Please look forward to it!


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    Thanks Rukkirii. Glad to know that ultra director Yoshi-P has an open mind.

    tbh, it probably wouldn't make sense to implement at a (re)launch anyway since new servers wouldn't have economies to begin with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by axemtitanium View Post
    You don't think he got 7/7 relics and saw there was nothing left to do in the game? I'm sure he'll be back once 2.0 comes out but I'm guessing there was really no reason for him to continue logging in other than to help other people all day every day, which understandably might get boring.
    so if someone wanted they could search everyone on the server with 7/7 relic achievement then figure out which one is your friend(prob in the same LS or something) and well know who this guy is then. awesome thanks for the info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukkirii View Post
    We brought this thread to Yoshida's attention and here's what he had to say:
    That's awesome to hear! Thanks a lot for bringing it to Yoshida-san's attention. I really appreciate it Rukkirii.

    Glad to see that they may be considering it for the future. Hopefully they'll look into this over hybrid business models (F2P plus optional sub), that are the most usual alternative but tends to really dilute content for paying players

    So much for "SE will never consider this!".

    Remember people. Good game developers consider *every* option. This doesn't mean they will implement them all, but open mindedness is what distinguishes a good developer from a great one.

    The previous leadership wasn't made of bad developers per se, but they did seem very much close minded, unable to look at the rest of the market. What I always liked about Yoshida is that he has a very attentive eye on the rest on the market (being a MMORPG player himself), and is open minded about taking from it what can help is own ideas.
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    Last edited by Abriael; 11-07-2012 at 08:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    so if someone wanted they could search everyone on the server with 7/7 relic achievement then figure out which one is your friend(prob in the same LS or something) and well know who this guy is then. awesome thanks for the info.
    Go ahead and report him if you want, if you can figure out who it is. Whatever gets your rocks off lol.
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    This makes sense, Chronoscroll wasn't implemented right away neither.
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