Coincounter

[Molly_Millions]

This is how I've seen a tank regularly do this, stack ~4700 HP on WAR and just take the swing to the face. No idea if it's the most efficient strategy but seems to work nonetheless.

That doesn't seem like the WAR would be very effective DMG-wise with that much HP. Where did they stack all that HP, anyway? My personal preference is always to go with DMG output, because it makes the fight shorter, and shorter fights = less chance of death for the rest of the party.

[SwordCoheir]

This is probably the most comprehensive and helpful description of the fight I've seen. Thank you.

And also thanks to everyone else. You've given me some useful tools to work with.

Glad to be of service.

Oh, One more thing. If you do happen to get an opportunity to use Riot Blade (Like when he falls on his ass after 100-Tonze Swing), by all means use it. It's Def/M.Def down effect really speeds up the kill (especially in a mage burn).

[Thunderz]

That doesn't seem like the WAR would be very effective DMG-wise with that much HP. Where did they stack all that HP, anyway? My personal preference is always to go with DMG output, because it makes the fight shorter, and shorter fights = less chance of death for the rest of the party.

Tank just need to survive and hold hate

Being one shot is not fun... I've seen it happen several times >.>;

Also the Tanks output is irrelevant in this fight he just needs to survive the 100T moves

Dodging is very risky towards the end of the fight since it triggers the slugs (sound) which silences and amnesia's the mages...which is very well you know.

Its really a full proof plan....just pray the bastard doesn't Spam Animal Instinct

[Kitfox]

That doesn't seem like the WAR would be very effective DMG-wise with that much HP. Where did they stack all that HP, anyway? My personal preference is always to go with DMG output, because it makes the fight shorter, and shorter fights = less chance of death for the rest of the party.

Can get the HP from gear+food (apkallu omelette I believe). Having enough HP allows the tank to keep fighting through swing instead of running away = more dmg and more hate = safer for the party as long as you can't be one shot. The only thing that wipes the party with this strategy is trigger happy BLMs that don't stop after AI, or a very bad WHM. Could say it's the "simple way" of fighting Coincounter, tank&spank.

Of course, you can stack DD equipment, run away from Swing, sleep/kill slugs, move around, whatever. But there's a lot more moving parts in the equation. Simple = Less chance to screw up = safer for everyone = reliable.

Not to mention that I haven't seen a tank parse very high numbers compared to the rest of the party anyway, so in my opinion, keeping everyone safe is more important than trying inch a couple of DPS more. But that's just me, I'm sure there are amazing WARs/PLDs out there.

[Musaid]

As warrior, I just constantly run between his legs starting around 70%. If he turns around he'll do either swipe or glower; at which point you're already going back through him. If he doesn't turn he'll do AI or swing. I leave enough room both sides to just run straight back to avoid the swing. Using this method I can also avoid glower, taking minimum damage and allowing the whm to deal damage for the majority of the fight instead.

[Judge_Xero]

As warrior, I just constantly run between his legs starting around 70%. If he turns around he'll do either swipe or glower; at which point you're already going back through him. If he doesn't turn he'll do AI or swing. I leave enough room both sides to just run straight back to avoid the swing. Using this method I can also avoid glower, taking minimum damage and allowing the whm to deal damage for the majority of the fight instead.

I've seen a video of someone tanking him like this. It looked pretty fun. It seems to create a lot of downtime for Coincounter because he won't do anything while he turns to face you.

[Musaid]

Just to add, I don't use provoke or flash past the first time; I save both for AI. I can generate enough enmity through damage in just hp gear (full HDL etc.) with blms going all out. This is for under 17m runs, but again as warrior.

[GreyJorildyn]

I dunno how that's possible. I keep my rotation very tight on coincounter and if I miss a skull sunder or slow down anywhere, then I will lose hate to the BLMs. I run full enmity set for this mob because of it and if I remove even a stonewall earring, I don't generate enough enmity lol. Might be my BLM are a bit more crazy than yours or something.

[Musaid]

Coincounter needs to go down in under 2mins, so blms can't really hold back. They need to keep walk mode on and cancel spells when AI is used. I have 165 enmity in the hp set from just Bravura and HDL though, that might play a part.

[GreyJorildyn]

Coincounter needs to go down in under 2mins, so blms can't really hold back. They need to keep walk mode on and cancel spells when AI is used. I have 165 enmity in the hp set from just Bravura and HDL though, that might play a part.

Yes, I have all that. My gear is as follows:

Bravura
HDL Armor
Cobalt Plate Belt (Enmity +42)
HDL Flanchard
HDL Gauntlets
White Ravens
Militia Choker
Coral Armillae +1
Electrum Ring +1 x2

That's my tank loadout. My point was that if I swap out even like Enmity+10 on wrists (I said earring before but I meant wrist, same difference), and if I don't hit my rotation perfectly, my BLMs pull hate. At this point they all have relics as well and they are all riding my ass for enmity on this battle. I definitely cannot afford to skip provoke/flash like you claim you can.