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    Disciples of Magic in A Realm Reborn

    Q: In ARR, will Disciples of Magic be able to cast spells while in passive mode?

    A: In ARR, the character will go into active mode and draw their weapon as soon as the casting animation begins.
    I am sorry, in my opinion there are way better questions to ask about Disciples of Magic than this.

    But on this topic, why is it being re-added, and why did 57 (possibly still growing) like this? Isn't this going to cause an animation lock again between taking the weapon out, then cast the spell?

    Regarding Thaumaturge/Conjurer/White Mage, you talked about Monk being a hybrid and that it will be the most reworked class/job. I figured this would go to the disciples of magic since they share abilities making them somewhat hybrids of each other.

    How will Red Mage (When implemented) be any different from White Mage? Since White mage can nuke,enfeeble, and heal, just like Red Mage, are you going to rely solely on it's ability to use a sword?

    Will Thaumaturge/Black Mage have the enfeebles removed from their spells and have their damage increased to the Fire/Ice line?

    I could go on, but time for work.
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    All good questions, but I doubt we'll hear anything until well after Arcanist has been put through the loops, including its comparison against other classes in end-game. Which... is unfortunate.

    We still don't the base classes likely to be used for many of the most favored possible jobs-to-come. We can talk theoreticals as to which would be best, how we'd like to see things done, or whether the exact-ability carry-overs are inferior to more unique motif/niche crossovers, etc, but getting actual information is probably pretty far off.

    However, as to whether it creates animation-lock to draw your weapon: it doesn't. The draw time is basically inexistant, merged with the spell cast animation. You can see this in the recent live letter video. That that said animation looks... a bit freakish at best... seems the larger issue, though that's probably the largest category of critiques on ARR already.
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    I thought we were supposed to be getting 2 new Disciples of magic, not just 1 class/job.

    What happened to the other one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki View Post
    How will Red Mage (When implemented) be any different from White Mage? Since White mage can nuke,enfeeble, and heal, just like Red Mage, are you going to rely solely on it's ability to use a sword?
    I think you mean "if implemented". There's been no mention of RDM at all from the dev side, if my memory serves me correctly. They've only talked about Arcanist/Summoner, Musketeer, Ninja, and Samurai.
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    I don't see how they can implement it, and make it unique while White mage is the way it is anyway.

    They have no current plans for blue mage.

    By what Summoners seems to be what Black Mage should be. An all-situation caster.

    I don't know. I gave up trying to understand what they doing with it...
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    Black Mage is an attack magic specialist meant to deal damage.

    White Mage is a healing and enhancing magic specialist meant to support a party.

    Summoner is an enfeebling magic specialist that also functions as a pet using job.

    Switching to active mode no longer penalizes the player with no MP regen in ARR. There's also no lag in the animation of starting a cast from passive mode.

    You'd know these if you had watched the live letter.
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    Did they talk about changing spells to Black mage, or redo the enfeeble system so it works better against mobs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki View Post
    Did they talk about changing spells to Black mage, or redo the enfeeble system so it works better against mobs?
    I'm sure every class/job is going to change at least a little, but BLM still remains a nuker, not an enfeebler.
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    It's not an enfeebler, but wish it had more to it than using thunder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki View Post
    It's not an enfeebler, but wish it had more to it than using thunder.
    Fair enough. With spells no longer having separate cooldowns I can already see mages playing quite differently. Hopefully BLM will be a more dynamic and enjoyable job with ARR as well.
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