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  1. #1
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    Mujen's Avatar
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    Mujen Whisperfall
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    CONJURER Lv 50

    WHM gets the short stick

    How about instant cast regen for whm? And Instant to the point you can cast it while moving. Esuna 10sec recast, why? it removes 1 debuff, most NMs/Bosses will place 2+

    Holy consumes ALL MP? like wtf? So if i cant 1 shot something w/ Holy its pretty much game over.. WHM have no weaponskill.. why not? We can gain TP.. Once ur oom, ur just done till natural regen, what if I wanna solo and do a fancy WS?

    If SE wants to get with the times, how about upping the lone healing class's playability!

    Every WHM prime weapon? crap! Every whm pretty much has the same gear, I hope 2.0 rly has more in store for WHM, they seem like the most overlooked class at the moment and yet are a necessity... they're the only healer!

    P.S. For the love of god, fix this "cannot cast while moving" Crap for v2.0 where you try to cast soon as u stop hitting the movement key!
    Tank runs ahead... whm follows... tank is about to die.. whm stops.. hits cura... "cannot cast while moving" .. whm spams Cura... tank dies... /GG

    I dont even wanna talk about PvP, unless whm gets revamped, it's gonna suck ballz, can u see a melee on whm? Interrupt every step of the way and then lights out.

    Edit: WHM needs MACE! for realz! Sexy mace ftw
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    Last edited by Mujen; 09-09-2012 at 06:29 AM.

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    Lyndel Qa'tre
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    Hyperion
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    GLADIATOR Lv 50
    Are you serious? WHM Is the single most class with the most versatility. not only that, but it has the two BEST sub classes for survivability (Gladiator, and Pugilist). Regen's cast time is incredibly short for the amount of healing it can do, and Esuna's long cooldown is appropriate, especially since you have the option to sacred prism it.


    As for the gear, WHM's have the choice of gearing for Wind Potency. Raw Healing, or heavy Enhancing. Or in the case of Ifrit extreme, HP. I sacrifice ~40 Healing Potency so as to have enough HP to survive hellfire sans Sentinel. This means I can sentinel and emergency heal tank during a plume on me. Or have it for several other situations.


    This is the LAST class that needs -ANY- work.
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    No casting while moving is here to stay, blame people who want PvP that'll do it for the first week then never touch it again. Also no, WHM needs no work.
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    Wolfandre De'asura
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    GLADIATOR Lv 50
    Don't confuse FFXIV WHM with FFXI WHM.

    FFXIV WHM is a CNJ with uber healing skills. Some great DD, great healing, light on debuff removal (not a whole lot of debuffs worth removing. Petrify destroys my PLD on a regular basis), little to no focus on anything physical whether it be offense or defense.

    FFXI WHM is akin to the Cleric class in D&D. Best healer, utility spells (teleports), buff bot, undead bane (anyone remember 99,999 dmg to undead? XP) and can back itself up with melee under the right conditions.

    The former is a pure mage, and is at least somewhat close to the 'original' white mage of old. The latter is a different job altogether (and is actually an OP class, being what Tanaka saw as the only healer among 22 classes AND able to do all of that other junk).

    That bit about casting while moving is being fixed with localized servers minimizing the lag from the game to your UI. It will go away.

    They will have their spot in PvP as the only healers in the game, but man, will they be targets. The same can be said for real warfare though: want to eliminate your foes? Destroy what's helping them most. It will be up to the PLDs to defend their WHMs to the death, like PvE. There's no difference here, aside from the fact that your opponent is not pre-programmed.

    WHM does not need maces, clubs, or hammers. It needs equipment to augment it's healing and casting capabilities, which it already has.

    The other option is to have an alternative healer that can actually perform as well as WHM in certain scenarios, such as a TP healer (DNC) that shines during Silence auras, or a tank that gets it's healing from absorbing damage, or even arcanist, tanking with pets so that PCs don't take the damage. If one, or more, of these things happen, I don't care what you give to WHM, as healing then becomes a question of "Which healer works best?"

    Personally, that's how it should be. We do that when picking between WAR and PLD tanks. We do that when choosing between zergs and DoT. Why should there be one catch-all healer?

    Sorry, I got to kind of thinking out loud. I'll leave it there, though, because I don't like editing my train of thought.
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  5. #5
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    Indira Cliodhna
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    whm is just about perfect compared to the other jobs. they got the longer end of the stick.
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    Seigyoku Cypher
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    WHM is my favorite job, can't say I've felt short-sticked yet. The can't-cast-while-moving-right-after-stopping thing, I hear ya on that one, but I've noticed that on every spell, not just CNJ/WHM's.
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    "Ul'dah can keep their dusty markets, and their streets paved in silver and gold.
    Limsa Lominsa keep your pirates, and your ships covered in musty mold.
    My loyalty lies with Gridania, with the Moogles and the tree spirits of old." -The Forky Conjurer

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    Duelle Urelle
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    Lamia
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    GLADIATOR Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Mujen View Post
    And Instant to the point you can cast it while moving.
    I hope the new engine allows this to happen. It's useful on the fly.

    Esuna 10sec recast, why? it removes 1 debuff, most NMs/Bosses will place 2+
    Spells won't have a cooldown in 2.0, so this is moot. The balancing factor is really that you'd burn your MP if you spam Esuna. I would, however, ask for an AoE version that removes all debuffs or maybe 3/4 debuffs.

    I dont even wanna talk about PvP, unless whm gets revamped, it's gonna suck ballz, can u see a melee on whm? Interrupt every step of the way and then lights out.
    True, without some instants WHM might as well have a "please interrupt me while I'm casting stuff" sign over its head. It depends on whether the devs will be giving melee DPS the means with which to interrupt spell casting outside of stuns. Even if they didn't, you still have to worry about auto-attacks and WS interrupting casts.
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    * You know what's funny? FFXI turned RDM into a cheesy mage class, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to be a class that can do magic AND regular attacks. It's not supposed to be this guy in the background casting refresh on mages and debuffs on mobs... - Physic
    * http://tinyurl.com/oj2m2tm <= Fencer/Red Mage/Mystic Knight Idea
    * http://tinyurl.com/6uoxg2x <= Ramsey's RDM Suggestion
    * http://tinyurl.com/l6xmhvj <= Musketeer/Chemist/Gunner Idea
    * http://tinyurl.com/k7mducc <= Astrologist/Time Mage/Green Mage Idea

  8. #8
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    Rina Inverse
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    Nope, sorry
    I use to (and still able to) farm taper solo on WHM, 5-6 mobs is nothing

  9. #9
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    Mujen Whisperfall
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    I think you guys have become complacent, FF players are in their own world... And im gonna get hate for this since I've long left this world. FFXI was pretty much my 1st MMO for 4yrs then I moved on to other games. I came back for 2.0 ^_^
    I loved FFXI at the time, but looking back... was slooow. Which is why Yoshi wants to speed things up...
    Saying whm is perfect is just... idk, try some other games out?

    Btw PLD saving whm in pvp, rly? c'mon now.. Are you thinking about cover?
    The game, in general, needs more.. it's still dated, nice graphics but the mechanics needs rework.. even ur developer knows this.. guys.. welcome to 2012... we have added new technology! *surprise!*
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    Alhanelem Amidatelion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mujen View Post
    How about instant cast regen for whm? And Instant to the point you can cast it while moving. Esuna 10sec recast, why? it removes 1 debuff, most NMs/Bosses will place 2+

    Holy consumes ALL MP? like wtf? So if i cant 1 shot something w/ Holy its pretty much game over.. WHM have no weaponskill.. why not? We can gain TP.. Once ur oom, ur just done till natural regen, what if I wanna solo and do a fancy WS?

    If SE wants to get with the times, how about upping the lone healing class's playability!

    Every WHM prime weapon? crap! Every whm pretty much has the same gear, I hope 2.0 rly has more in store for WHM, they seem like the most overlooked class at the moment and yet are a necessity... they're the only healer!

    P.S. For the love of god, fix this "cannot cast while moving" Crap for v2.0 where you try to cast soon as u stop hitting the movement key!
    Tank runs ahead... whm follows... tank is about to die.. whm stops.. hits cura... "cannot cast while moving" .. whm spams Cura... tank dies... /GG

    I dont even wanna talk about PvP, unless whm gets revamped, it's gonna suck ballz, can u see a melee on whm? Interrupt every step of the way and then lights out.

    Edit: WHM needs MACE! for realz! Sexy mace ftw
    uhmmm... most of the shit you're complaining about is already on the fixing block. but way to rant about it anyway.
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