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Thread: which weapon?

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    which weapon?

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    GC spear (limsa)
    garuda
    ifrit
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    which is the superior spear, and what would be stat caps to aim for with it?
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    Ifrit is pretty much useless trash now. I'd edit that out of your list if I were you.
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    I'm personally running with the GC (Limsa too!) spear right now, using the Tunic, Earrings, Bracelet, Belt and Trident itself for the 5 set piece bonus for +30atk.
    I don't have Garuda's Beak, yet if I did I would probably alternate between the two of those depending on the mobs/situation.
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    The thumb rule is to pick the weapon with the highest DPS, which for LNC/DRG is Garuda's Beak if relics are not included. Second Place goes to the highest ranking GC weapon.
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    Gae Bolg > Storm Lieutenant's Trident > Garuda Beak >
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    Looking at DPS and Base Damage (influences auto-attack, does more damage to end-game fights than you think ^_~), the Ifrit's Harpoon is bested by the Sergeant Spear if you have the Atk Power Sanction, and the Lieutenant's Spears are above those, *assuming* you have the 5-piece bonus or the Flame Spear which has the attack power pre-bonus.

    Factoring in Auto-attack and jump damage:

    Lieutenant's Spear > Garuda > Sergeant/Ifrit

    Sergeant offered up a 21.75% increase in WS damage, but add auto-attack and jump into that equation, and Ifrit's is 22% more damage output. I was too lazy to get exactly 7.8%, but I feel 7.1 is close enough for me xD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silvano View Post
    Looking at DPS and Base Damage (influences auto-attack, does more damage to end-game fights than you think ^_~), the Ifrit's Harpoon is bested by the Sergeant Spear if you have the Atk Power Sanction, and the Lieutenant's Spears are above those, *assuming* you have the 5-piece bonus or the Flame Spear which has the attack power pre-bonus.

    Factoring in Auto-attack and jump damage:

    Lieutenant's Spear > Garuda > Sergeant/Ifrit

    Sergeant offered up a 21.75% increase in WS damage, but add auto-attack and jump into that equation, and Ifrit's is 22% more damage output. I was too lazy to get exactly 7.8%, but I feel 7.1 is close enough for me xD.

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    "(unless you are a Flamer and your lieutenant spear has Attack Power and a higher Base Damage on it by default…YOU [assholes] have the best spear in-game next to Garuda/Relic)"


    lol dont know why that line made me lol so much but it did >< we may have the better spear but our lieutenants armor is mage heavy
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    Hmm. Being Gridanian I don't think there is a set combination that actually merits the loss of stats required to get the added bonus on the high rank spear, any tips in that department?

    I should ask, what constitutes a piece that meets that requirement, any Grand Company equipment or only one with a set passive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    Hmm. Being Gridanian I don't think there is a set combination that actually merits the loss of stats required to get the added bonus on the high rank spear, any tips in that department?

    I should ask, what constitutes a piece that meets that requirement, any Grand Company equipment or only one with a set passive?
    You're kidding?

    Lieutenant Overcoat, Lieutenant Hat, Choker and one random piece. I would say Bracelet because you might lose -4 STR OR PIE (assume you use HQ Bracelet) but in return you get +45 Hp and +25 ATK from the spear. That's the set I'm running with and the Crit damage is HUGE. Any piece from Grand Company (Green) will meet the requirement.

    The weapon is largely dependent on your clothes. If you got full DL, use Garuda. If you got plenty of good GC pieces along with good melded pieces, use Lieutenant.
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    Last edited by MariyaShidou; 07-03-2012 at 09:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    Hmm. Being Gridanian I don't think there is a set combination that actually merits the loss of stats required to get the added bonus on the high rank spear, any tips in that department?

    I should ask, what constitutes a piece that meets that requirement, any Grand Company equipment or only one with a set passive?
    I'll lend you my experience on this as i bought the spear tabard bracelets choker and the belt only to find when i bought the Gridanian Officer's Cap that i could have not wasted my seals on the belt because it counts towards the 5 piece requirement. So i guess any gear bought with seals at the adders nest thats unique/untradeable counts as serpent gear even if it isnt there in the name.
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    Last edited by Alaltus; 07-03-2012 at 10:06 AM.

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