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    i do cap my str with that stuff :v
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    Last edited by Squiggles; 07-06-2012 at 02:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
    Ifrit is pretty much useless trash now. I'd edit that out of your list if I were you.
    Why is ifrit's harpoon considered trash now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralos View Post
    Why is ifrit's harpoon considered trash now?
    Attack power is a crappy stat in comparison to other stats and dps is low in comparison to most of everything else.
    A double melded crafted lance is better if you use the right materia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
    Attack power is a crappy stat in comparison to other stats and dps is low in comparison to most of everything else.
    A double melded crafted lance is better if you use the right materia.
    a double melded spear doesnt have more dps than ifrits harpoon but w/e lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malix View Post
    a double melded spear doesnt have more dps than ifrits harpoon but w/e lol
    +30 STR > +30 Attack Power
    If you +1 a Cobalt Guisarme with 2 grade IV materia that is plenty stronger than Ifrit's Harpoon.
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    I'm no math nut, but I'm pretty sure the sheer DPS increase (a 5% gain) still trumps whatever you throw on a double-melded crafted weapon. I can tell you with great certainty that it's not "plenty stronger" than Ifrit's.

    Here's the comparison, since I had to look it up.

    Hart Guisarme +1 : DMG140 Delay3.7 (DPS:37.84) Acc+7 Atk+15 (+whatever meld)

    vs

    Ifrit's Harpoon : DMG151 Delay3.8 (DPS:39.74) Atk+30
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    Last edited by Raldo; 07-15-2012 at 01:48 PM. Reason: Clarified "base damage" to "DPS"

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    "DPS" is the stat you wanna look at since base damage and delay both factor in for a weapons damage. It's not that far off and +30 or more STR and +7 ACC will do a lot more to add on to your weapon skills than a 1.9 DPS and a +15 Attack Power difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
    "DPS" is the stat you wanna look at since base damage and delay both factor in for a weapons damage. It's not that far off and +30 or more STR and +7 ACC will do a lot more to add on to your weapon skills than a 1.9 DPS and a +15 Attack Power difference.
    Completely, and utterly false. Especially considering STR is so incredibly easy to cap. When are you going to stop posting information that is not accurate? Do you just like to increase your post count? Ifrit's Harpoon is going to get you miles farther than a Hart Guisarme, just based off the fact that your stat caps will be higher. This is like the time you said PIE was a terrible stat for DRG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeonRegulus View Post
    Completely, and utterly false. Especially considering STR is so incredibly easy to cap. When are you going to stop posting information that is not accurate? Do you just like to increase your post count? Ifrit's Harpoon is going to get you miles farther than a Hart Guisarme, just based off the fact that your stat caps will be higher. This is like the time you said PIE was a terrible stat for DRG.
    It's terrible when you meld it on a body, yeah. Better off going with crit attack power.

    Also, I'm talking about the weapon itself. My statement is still true.
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    Last edited by AmyNeudaiz; 07-15-2012 at 02:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
    It's terrible when you meld it on a body, yeah. Better off going with crit attack power.

    Also, I'm talking about the weapon itself. My statement is still true.
    Please never play Dragoon again, I even waited all day to post too see if idiots like you would stop posting such false information. Do us all a favor and go away and don't post on the dragoon forums again, because you are wrong.
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