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    A few answers on Hamlet Defense Battles

    Hey everyone!

    I’m bringing you a few questions that were answered by the dev. team about the Hamlet Defense battles.


    It’s hard to tell whether Hamlet is in supply phase or defense phase, as you need to physically go there to check.
    We are currently looking into whether we can integrate some sort of display to show which phase Hamlet is in.

    Hamlets are too far away. Can you put aetherial gates nearby?
    If we placed an aetherial gate nearby it would be too easy for the supply phase, so we have no plans to place them nearby.

    Once the other two city-states’ Hamlet battles are added, everyone will disperse to each of them making it harder to get the level 2 rating.
    We will be adjusting the rating settings based on the fact that we will have one for each city-state. However, once these are released we would like to look into easing the ratings after we hear everyone’s feedback and take a look at the situation.
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    What of the morbidly low chest item drop rate? Even the folks who are in the top 20 provisioning see nothing but dark matter from chests, while scoring north of 40,000 points. After 40 attempts. Is the loot list-to-points-scored algorithm incomplete or something? It is causing the hamlet battlemode to become very... unpopular. Which is a shame, since it took so much to implement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukkirii View Post

    If we placed an aetherial gate nearby it would be too easy for the supply phase, so we have no plans to place them nearby.
    Why not just have it where the teleport is only active during the battle phase. if people do have sucha problem traveling to the Hamlet you could always make it cost 10 anima to use and you can only teleport to said Hamlet if you're in the proper city.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rukkirii View Post

    We will be adjusting the rating settings based on the fact that we will have one for each city-state. However, once these are released we would like to look into easing the ratings after we hear everyone’s feedback and take a look at the situation.
    You can asjust the rating but it still won't help with the potential loot. The developers of Hamlet are asking a lot for sucha small loot pool for each Hamlet. Based on the first one it would appear the loot pool for those not in the Top 20 I'm seeing that they can only get 2 pieces of gear which are both rare/ex while those in the Top 20 have a chance at 4-5 different secondary tools for DoL/H and then the one Hamlet head gear for said DoL.

    Unlike Primals which offer something for everyone, the Hamelt loot pool leaves certain classes out so in the grand scheme of things people will only want to do certain Hamlets that they can get something out of. As others have mentioned, adding grand company seals as a reward would do a lot to increase the popularity of Hamlet, since as it stands now the anima reward is such a joke when you consider how much you can get and how easy it is to accumulate.

    You have to consider, would it be better to gimp the amount of anima earned as a reward, or offer a more lucrative and useful reward that can be used by everyone, aka grand company seals. Or how about this.

    Rather then obtaining Grand Company Seals what if we were given a new currency which could be redeemed for crystal Clusters, taper(stuff used for primals), maybe even totems(stuff used to purchase the weapons). Since Hamlet is only a 25hr event within 50hr intervals offering more lucrative rewards would increase the popularity of it as well as make the downtime more reasonable to deal with. With the current downtime Hamlet will only be seen as worth it during the weekend while during the weekday it won't be as popular.

    In terms of reward say the most you can get in a round of Hamlet is 500 points.
    Clusters could be 50 each
    Taper/Moogle/Garuda could be 10/5/10 each
    Totems/Nuts/Garuda could be 1000/1000/500 each

    This way, if people get bored of doing the Primals they could do Hamlet as another way to earn them, but since it's only open for 25hrs they'll still have to do the Primals if they aren't willing to wait the 50hrs to do more Hamlet.

    With this ratio at 500 points max one could buy 50 tapers/vortex for 10 attempts and 50 nuts for 10 attempts or.

    They could do 20 Hamlets to obtain enough Totems to obtain a weapon, 20 Hamlets is about 10 minutes to win, 3hrs and 20 minutes, then there's the 15 min downtime if you win so that's 5hrs of downtime for a total of having to spend 8hrs and 20 mins of Hamlet IF you obtain the max amount of points and don't lose any Hamlets. So I just think perhaps if they take a reward like this into consideration others may see Hamlet as a more worthwhile event if you are not willing to add more rewards to hamlet itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    This way, if people get bored of doing the Primals they could do Hamlet as another way to earn them, but since it's only open for 25hrs they'll still have to do the Primals if they aren't willing to wait the 50hrs to do more Hamlet.
    No. Just no.

    Hamlet Defense and Primal Fights are two entirely different types of content, and should not be mixed. Before long, people are going to want primal loot dropped in un-related dungeons. And then from open-world notorious monsters. This is a horrible, horrible idea. If you want primal weapons, fight the primals.

    On another note, I think Hamlet Defense should have some form of Grand Company seal reward, as well as a point system in which you can accumulate points in order to purchase hamlet defense related equipment and items. This RNG bull has got to go. This isn't a dungeon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukkirii View Post
    Hey everyone!

    I’m bringing you a few questions that were answered by the dev. team about the Hamlet Defense battles.



    We are currently looking into whether we can integrate some sort of display to show which phase Hamlet is in.


    If we placed an aetherial gate nearby it would be too easy for the supply phase, so we have no plans to place them nearby.


    We will be adjusting the rating settings based on the fact that we will have one for each city-state. However, once these are released we would like to look into easing the ratings after we hear everyone’s feedback and take a look at the situation.
    The devs are awesome as usual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukkirii View Post
    We are currently looking into whether we can integrate some sort of display to show which phase Hamlet is in.
    I would be completely satisfied if you just added the info on the /clock macro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKupo View Post
    I would be completely satisfied if you just added the info on the /clock macro.
    Or like Campaign in XI, just add an intelligence officer...but given how this game already pushing memory...I guess that would be outta the realm of possibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukkirii View Post

    We will be adjusting the rating settings based on the fact that we will have one for each city-state. However, once these are released we would like to look into easing the ratings after we hear everyone’s feedback and take a look at the situation.
    Here you have feedback: in my server (Ragnarok) we have not done level 2 hamlet yet and as days passes there are less donations. When there are 3 hamlets it will be worst indeed. We cant enjoy hamlet defense like that it seems as if 1.22 only had garuda, there is a content we cant fully enjoy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukkirii View Post
    Hey everyone!

    I’m bringing you a few questions that were answered by the dev. team about the Hamlet Defense battles.



    We are currently looking into whether we can integrate some sort of display to show which phase Hamlet is in.


    If we placed an aetherial gate nearby it would be too easy for the supply phase, so we have no plans to place them nearby.


    We will be adjusting the rating settings based on the fact that we will have one for each city-state. However, once these are released we would like to look into easing the ratings after we hear everyone’s feedback and take a look at the situation.
    are they planning to make it... less instanced come 2.0?
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    Here's a big question: Will Hamlet Defense become open-world and NOT require a full party @ 2.0? I think this alone is the worst part of Hamlet Defense.
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