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    [ Suggestion ] - WHM Holy Spell Adjustment

    At its current state, the WHM Holy spells is lacking enough usefulness to be worthy of a Job ability.
    Due to its recast(5 mins), its Magic potency(near the same dmg of Stonera), and most of all, it's MP cost(All MP).

    I do not see that all 3 categories need to be improved, but at least one of the 3 would make the spell somewhat useful, instead of being a fun flashy gimmick finisher move that is only used when you're just messing around or have already won the battle.

    Please strongly consider improving the Magic Potency of this spell, to reflect the cost(MP and recast).
    Or just remove the cost of all MP.
    Or simply give it much shorter recast time.

    Thank you for your consideration.
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    Y'ahte Tia
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    Just- A moment. I mean- At least on random mobs which is where the only place i've used Holy- It was dealing about 1200~1600 whereas Stonera was dealing 800 or so and Aerora 500.
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    Zealotius Arkimedes
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    Holy for me is only used for when a mob is near wiped....or in a dungeon if i can SoS immediately after
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    Fallen Eden
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    BLM 15 min Burst cooldown needs to be adjusted before holy. 15min for at most ~200 damage more than a regular thunder combo.
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    use the instant recast ability, MP regen ability

    Instant recast > Holy > MP heal ability > Holy = WIN lol

    Posted on JP side but I want confirmation button instead of it just going off with a single press of a button...
    Holy > Automatically targets self and can't target anything else > press enter > uses holy

    Pressed Holy at the wrong damn place and was embarrassing lol
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    ^^^
    You really just have to get used to not pressing it at the wrong time, I have it separated faaaar away from any spells i use regularly lol, but when I first got it I would accidentally hit it occasionally. I like it better being instant cast with 1 press.

    Holy is really good though, I wouldn't change anything about it. It's a really powerful emergency move and can do some great damage/clear some adds right as you run out of MP and before you cycle through your MP restoring abilities. As was stated, on enemies not weak to Stone, it can do around 50% more damage than Stonera, doesn't need to be Combo'd to get that damage, is AOE, instant cast, can Bind, and can cost as low as 280 MP. The description doesn't say it does any particular element of damage, which is great too because you won't get resisted.

    Even as someone that pushes for CNJ/WHM nuking when they can, Holy isn't supposed to be something you use with regular frequency since it isn't your job.
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    Last edited by Estellios; 04-13-2012 at 11:24 AM.

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    Holy does 80 damage on Ifrit......

    All I'm saying is to give up ALL MP should result in something more significant.
    Or change the MP cost.

    For a WHM to sacrifice all their MP puts the whole party at risk, so there should be a better compensation.
    But like I said before, the way Holy has been implemented just makes it a gimmick spell, and not for real battle use.
    Otherwise I'll be left killing marmots for 9999 damage with Holy just for kicks.

    Please Dev's, have a heart, don't let Holy be used to destroy innocent lowly furry animals on the outskirts of town for the amusement of twisted White Mages.
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    Lynn Nuvestrahl
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    Holy is powerful in certain situations, especially doubled. Wiping all mp makes its use more strategic. I like it the way it is.
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    Holy x2 kills the boss in Totorak... lol Always use it when doing speed runs with my wife w
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    Yoso Carrasco
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    Holy is really useful for helping clear groups of enemies, too. If you use your abilities right you can go indefinitely on Shroud of Saints and Blissful Mind.

    The spell just has so many pro's I would hate to see it have to be nerfed to offset its extremely minor and manageable con.
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