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  1. #61
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    Dustytome's Avatar
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    Fox Briarthorn
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    Sargatanas
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    Culinarian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Derfel View Post
    What is it with this forum and swinging around how long you've been here for? Are you just trying to show off or does being here for a long time make you think it gives your argument some credibility? perhaps in all the time you've been around you may have noticed that publishers tend not to name and shame, nor confirm who has been banned due to privacy laws and their ToS.

    It's quite frankly insulting when people cry "bot" because someone does something better or faster than them. Do you complain when someone clears a dungeon before you? Because someone has more gil than you? Because someone got a house and you didn't? It just screams insecurity really.
    It's about being around for a period of time to see the inaction. I didn't just report someone yesterday and expect it to be dealt with by now. Reporting people for very clearly botting. As an example, one person I reported multiple times was botting timed nodes near non-stop. I caught them one day using something to farm mobs. They would fly in a perfect vertical circle until a goat spawned and aggroed, kill it and then return to the perfect circle repeating this over and over again. That was YEARS ago and they're still active to this day. The best part is they've used all their ill-gotten gains to buy up a bunch of houses all over on multiple of their characters.
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  2. #62
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    Fawkes Macleod
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    Excalibur
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    I assume this is what it looks like when bots break?

    https://streamable.com/m6wkn
    https://streamable.com/3o3vc

    Quote Originally Posted by Derfel View Post
    Consider for a moment that someone got into the top rankings purely because they had the time to invest into grinding out diadem and crafting. Just because someone did better than you doens't necessarily make them a botter, there will ALWAYS be someone who is better than you and has more time to dedicate to this game.
    Not to name and shame, but at least one of the people in the videos above scored top 12 as both a crafter and gatherer.

    I mean sure, maybe he just spent the whole week doing nothing else to pointlessly win twice, and sometimes he likes to hop in place for an hour just for fun, but I don't think it's far outside of the realm of possibility that he cheated, at least as a gatherer. That doesn't mean everyone in the top 12 cheated, I know a few people who got it that I would be quite surprised to find out they didn't get it legitimately. The people I know were stressed about trying to rank on one job.
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  3. #63
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post
    I assume this is what it looks like when bots break?

    https://streamable.com/m6wkn
    https://streamable.com/3o3vc
    ...Yeah, that's a particularly glaring example of how bots can behave.

    Which it makes all the more sad that they will still not get banned even if you report them and they linger in the same spot repeating their broken behavior for hours on end.
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  4. #64
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Cerberus
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Interesting. There's a player on my server who I often see in Limsa who does that exact same jump every ten seconds or so for hours on end. They're usually parked right next to the marketboard too.
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  5. #65
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Welp, I'll take the continued presence of every bot I and others reported along with the painfully average amount of bans as a sign that the STF continues to be just as incompetent and/or unconcerned about this whole matter as ever.

    At this point it's feeling like a wasted effort to even bother trying to bring attention to it, but I have a really hard time simply accepting an issue like this that undermines the efforts of honest, hard-working players.
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  6. #66
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    Th'mas Stormwalker
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    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90

    Add Turning Test

    Only half-kidding. When designing something like Diadem, consider how it could be made to require actions that are "simple" for a human, and ridiculously difficult for a script. Build on collaborative designs where two or more players have to work together in "human" ways and in doing so achieve far greater rewards. Just saying, there is more than one way to solve the problem... solve the problem... solve the problem... <*beep*>
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