So much punishment for innocent players

[Justadude]

It really bothers me that the development teams answers to RMT are to punish innocent players and make things complicated and difficult. The majority of players do not participate in RMT and many of them do what they can to help get those that do participate in RMT banned. Sadly in this regard the Anti RMT teams in place are so slow to respond the damage is already severe. For the innocent players its the equivalent of being a good housewife who gets beaten by her husband when he comes home from a bad day at work. Now i am not from Japan and that kind of thing might be legal there, but where i am from that is a crime.
Here are some examples of things we cannot do because RMT:
Cannot trade items and gil between characters on same account.
Cannot trade more than 1 million gil to another player at a time.
Cannot send more than 1 million gil to another player over mail.
Cannot send mail to another character on the same account.
cannot have alternate character as tenants of property on same account.
Cannot trade property to other players.
We no longer have reuse because of RMT
We do not have a proper market system because of RMT.

It is so bad that I have trouble believing the "actions taken against RMT" reports as factual and feel they are largely fabricated.

[Sabora_Makingai]

Cannot trade items and gil between characters on same account.
- There are ways around this. Put something up on the MB that is essentially worthless for the amount of gil you want them to have (plus tax) on the toon you want to have the gil, then buy that item with the toon that has the gil. boom. A few extra steps, but yeah.
Cannot trade more than 1 million gil to another player at a time.
-While yes, but trades take like 5 seconds so not really a problem to do multiple trades. Or do the MB method.
Cannot send more than 1 million gil to another player over mail.
-See above answers
Cannot send mail to another character on the same account.
- Not really sure why this would be a problem unless your talking about maps. You could also just put the items you wanted to send in an FC chest and then take them out on the other toon.
cannot have alternate character as tenants of property on same account.
-Fair point here. This would be a nice addition.
Cannot trade property to other players.
-Well you used to be able to do this but they stopped it because people would sell houses (trade gil before trading the property) to other people for ungodly amounts of gil and then no one new could own a house. The current system with all of its flaws allows so many more people the chance at owning a house.
We no longer have reuse because of RMT
-What? Not sure on this one. I was thinking it was because Reuse basically broke the rare item economy by making all of those super rare EX primal drops essentially endless. so guessing they did it to fix that.
We do not have a proper market system because of RMT.
-Could the market system be better? Oh for sure it could, but I'm confident that RMT is not the reason for it. if youre talking bots, then thats another thing. While people hate on bots for the obvious, they are the reason you can buy 9999 crystals or shards or clusters for dirt cheap.


My 2 cents is that the MB economy changed with how easy they made crafting this expansion. Legit anyone any their grandmother can make anything in the game for almost 0 effort now so the prices of everything are super cheap. But for the trading sections you mentioned, while annoying, its not the worst thing in the world and there are very easy ways around it.

[Justadude]

Im completely aware of the workarounds on this, the point is we HAVE to use the work arounds and the proper way is unavailable because it makes things more difficult for RMT activities. The workarounds are the beatings SE is giving us because RMT Exists...

[Arazehl]

Im completely aware of the workarounds on this, the point is we HAVE to use the work arounds and the proper way is unavailable because it makes things more difficult for RMT activities. The workarounds are the beatings SE is giving us because RMT Exists...

RMT has been around since the beginnings of MMO's. FFXIV isn't the first game that has ever had to deal with RMT and it won't be the last. You might want to go complain to the RMT people and those websites to voice your complaint. Your analogy is a little extreme in comparison. So you have to take an extra step or two because SE put some measures in place so as not to make it easy for RMT to profit off them so easily. Like I say I think you're complaining to the wrong people.

[Sabora_Makingai]

Ight my guy, gotta go SJW here for a second. Annoying work-arounds in a virtual game should NEVER be compared to IRL domestic violence, I understand you're frustrated but choose a different analogy pls and thank you.

Would it be nice if there were no need for the work arounds? Yes.
Does RMT suck? Absolutely.
Am I sympathetic to your issue? Sure why not.


But at the end of the day, I personally dont care enough to require a change to the way things are.

[Doozer]

As an 'innocent player', I've never thought "gosh darn it those got dang RMT bots are ruining my fun" except maybe making it harder to profit on the MB because they over-saturate the market so prices plummet, but somehow I survive. I don't think it really affects regular players as much as it seems.

[Mahrze]

Here are some examples of things we cannot do because RMT:
Cannot trade items and gil between characters on same account.
Cannot trade more than 1 million gil to another player at a time.
Cannot send more than 1 million gil to another player over mail.
Cannot send mail to another character on the same account.
cannot have alternate character as tenants of property on same account.
Cannot trade property to other players.
We no longer have reuse because of RMT
We do not have a proper market system because of RMT.

I mean, outside of maybe liking to make alts for RP/saving money on fantasias/retainers... None of these really seem to be as "punishing players".

[Justadude]

Look, i just needed to vent a little bit. RMT may not bother you. It bothers me. Do i feel bad about making an analogy to domestic violence. Not at all. Just like DV victims are innocent, so are we. We pay the price for SE's inaction when you know as well as i do that they could do WAY better in this regard. Yes, RMT exists in every MMO to some degree, BUT EVERY MMO DEALS WITH IT DIFFERENTLY, most dont punish the players so harshly. DO YOU SERIOUSLY like rolling the RNG 5 times to get one piece of lumber?! Vegas doesnt even skrew you that hard!!!! The 18 hour timer on map gathering - RMT measure.
Face the fact - SE wants it both ways, they want RMT to be illegal and allow it just enough to get paid too. everytime a RMT bot gets banned thats another 20 bucks in SE's pocket.
little does SE realize that their mogstation could make them triple that kind of cash, if they allowed those items to be trade-able on the MBs