Melded materia deleted trying to glamour

[Alklios]

Yes, posting on the forums, and getting responses from the community is not ever going to help you when you're facing a frustrating situation such as this.

But the fact remains, that the warning is there, so really there is not much that can be said or done in your defense specifically.

Again, it is extremely frustrating, to do something such as this, and its quite unfortunate.

But keep in mind a few things:

1. That gear is not even cap level gear.
2. Materia is easily replaced.
3. Gil is more than abundant (which is one of many options to replace said materia)
4. If you plan on playing this game for very long at all, you will be melding materia countless times again, to countless pieces of gear.

Its all really, just throw away items. The only things that stick with your character, is your glamour, and you'll likely finding yourself changing that numerous times as well.

Just try to shrug this off, and press onward to more enjoyable experiences.

While, yes, this was not a shining moment, and the warning could be improved, but in reality of the grand scheme of things, this mistake, really doesnt warrant your frustration, and more importantly, does not need to brought to the attention of the developers.

Side note:
I think there is an achievement for affixing 10,000 pieces of materia, maybe look at this as an opportunity to move a bit closer to that achievement?

I chuckled from your side note.

The warning is there but I could not digest the information due to a word completely disappearing at that time from my vision, and I'm rather inexperienced with what my visual needs are for this recent condition such as asking friends to read for me.

I know that in 3-4 weeks time I can just upgrade the crafted gear 10ilvl which makes it regular meld only.

It feels really bad though to be missing almost 1200 secondary stats for over a month of play. I got my scorch hitting around 92k direct crit to 112k in raids (no vuln) and hit often (3700 crit, 2500 det and 3100 DH). It's kinda like enjoying something ya put alot of time into like a new body work on a car but it gets a big ugly dent in it and can't repair it in week. Or for a less expensive allusion, working hard on an artwork piece for 3 days and then having forces at work spill your paints all over it and you can't get new canvas for a month.

[Iscah]

For point 1 on rollbacks, It's actually nice to know that they backup that far but that is usually for people's accounts being tampered with. Rolling back a week or I think even 2 ... for me wouldn't hurt as I forbidden melded a few days after 5.2 dropped.

I think you're misunderstanding. They didn't request to have their account rolled back three months; they had requested a rollback three months ago for something that had just happened, and it took all that time for it to be implemented.

There actually is lots of legislation for goods for your example for labels and such having to be conspicuous. Because product makers could make it inconspicuous in attempt to get you to ruin your clothes to buy more, in a rush overstock then discontinue the item.

That seems to be stretching the example - Square Enix certainly hasn't deliberately written that text to be misleading so you accidentally destroy your materia. Also, here in Australia at least, it's very standard for clothes to have their washing instructions printed in a small tag sewn to the inner seam, written in monochrome 6-pt ALL CAPS, so if that's a legal standard for clear legible communication of instructions then the only improvement I can see is that they've at least put it in a list. It's still very wall-of-text.

Or another example, and one that you certainly couldn't make an argument that the company might want it to happen... food allergy warnings. I've just gone and looked in my pantry. There's hardly anything with a food allergy statement that doesn't say something like "Contains gluten; may contain milk, peanuts, tree nuts" in small font, possibly all caps, possibly wedged between multiple other lines of text.

If you have a milk allergy and failed to spot that in the list, I doubt you'd be able to argue that they didn't warn you. There's no way multiple companies would be formatting it like that if it wouldn't be legally considered sufficient warning.


Edit: The core of my point is - yes it's miserable for you that this happened and it "wasn't your fault" that you couldn't read it, but that doesn't mean they have automatically legally failed you and you have the right to demand compensation.

If anything it might be a warning to you that you can't rely on your own reading ability to keep you 'safe' if a similar reading failure happened in a situation with real consequences.

If you now know you can miss things in a list formatted that way, you can be wary of that and get a second opinion if necessary.

[Alklios]

I think you're misunderstanding. They didn't request to have their account rolled back three months; they had requested a rollback three months ago for something that had just happened, and it took all that time for it to be implemented.





That seems to be stretching the example - Square Enix certainly hasn't deliberately written that text to be misleading so you accidentally destroy your materia. Also, here in Australia at least, it's very standard for clothes to have their washing instructions printed in a small tag sewn to the inner seam, written in monochrome 6-pt ALL CAPS, so if that's a legal standard for clear legible communication of instructions then the only improvement I can see is that they've at least put it in a list. It's still very wall-of-text.

Or another example, and one that you certainly couldn't make an argument that the company might want it to happen... food allergy warnings. I've just gone and looked in my pantry. There's hardly anything with a food allergy statement that doesn't say something like "Contains gluten; may contain milk, peanuts, tree nuts" in small font, possibly all caps, possibly wedged between multiple other lines of text.

If you have a milk allergy and failed to spot that in the list, I doubt you'd be able to argue that they didn't warn you. There's no way multiple companies would be formatting it like that if it wouldn't be legally considered sufficient warning.

The thing is with allergies you have a precognition and diagnosis in your mind with the specific idea in grocery shopping that you're looking for milk. This is known as a bias, because I am not thinking in my head ahead of time anything about materia protection when I'm going to glamour something. Why? Because FF is the only mmo I play that you have to store gear and destroy enchantments to use it for vanity.

And actually not -all- the goods are listed there. Because I've had friends with removed gall bladders and companies -do not- always list food dye and it's only known post-de-facto with a hospital visit. Let's PM some more if ya have more allusions to add I feel it's derailing my thread a bit.

[MrMagic]

you were twice about the removal of materia and you had to confirm twice:

...as well as remove customization including: signatures, materia...

The game tells you the item is going to lose customization (materia) and then lists examples, second example being materia.

Armoire gives a warning about removing customization and has been in the game for years. The Armoire does not mention Materia specifically because common sense would dictate "remove all customization" means the loss of Materia added to the item after receiving it.

Sorry the game doesn't work the way you think it should (materia shouldn't be removed). You were warned but made your own assumptions.

[Stepjam]

Ok, so looking at your legal judgments you brought up, there's one big thing missing from your example. Which is actual financial loss.
Subscription time lost wouldn't be enough generally. There would need to be a direct correlation between what you lost and related money.

For instance, if it were possible to spend real money for materia, and then you lost the real money materia as "easily" as you did, you might have a legal argument. That's real money directly lost. But since materia is acquired purely with in game resources, there is no monetary loss in your situation. It's purely fictional resources lost, which no court is going to care about.

[Lambdafish]

Are we really kicking up this much of a fuss over materia? Everything except crafting materia is so easily obtained, and even then...

[Nezerius]

Why? Because FF is the only mmo I play that you have to store gear and destroy enchantments to use it for vanity.

You only have to store the gear into the glamour dresser, if you want to make use of the glamour plate system. The good ol' Cast Glamour system still exists, allowing you to put the appearance of a piece of gear onto another piece of gear, as long as both pieces of gear are in your inventory/on your character. Costs 1 glamour prism per cast.

I know that in 3-4 weeks time I can just upgrade the crafted gear 10ilvl which makes it regular meld only.

As an unrelated sidenote, if you're talking about the augmented crafted gear, that won't be added until the odd numbered patch following an even numbered one. So you'll have to wait another 3-ish months.