Trying to understand player behavour with MB & MSQ dungeons

[Rasikko]

2. Cuz I want gil now

This is stupid(the mentality) because I've run into this crap in FFXI with crystals and stuff. Folks just kept on undercutting and undercutting and UNDERCUTTING because they want THEIRS to sell RIGHT FREAKING NOW so much that it crashes that item's marker and you would actually profit more by selling it to a vendor..

[Awha]

This is stupid(the mentality) because I've run into this crap in FFXI with crystals and stuff. Folks just kept on undercutting and undercutting and UNDERCUTTING because they want THEIRS to sell RIGHT FREAKING NOW so much that it crashes that item's marker and you would actually profit more by selling it to a vendor..

I mean it makes sense if the person has the desire to crash the market, especially when it generally annoys others. I could only imagine it is oddly satisfying to know that ones actions lead to a crash in a certain market, especially when one may have so much gil they have nothing else to do with it.

[Jojoya]

Uh, if i remember correctly all you do is relog to skip the cutscene. Technically, that is not an "Exploit". Personally they should make two separate roulette for the 50 MSQ where it divides players who want to watch cutscenes as opposed to those who don't want to.

That's very much an exploit. That's a player knowingly engaging in an activity that will intentionally bypass an intended mechanic.

What they need to do is add a Trust style system to Praetorium and Castrum, then remove the MSQ roulette altogether. New characters can use the Trust or form a pre-made group with friends to run them. Other players have plenty of options to chose from to get XP/tomestones.

I mean it makes sense if the person has the desire to crash the market, especially when it generally annoys others. I could only imagine it is oddly satisfying to know that ones actions lead to a crash in a certain market, especially when one may have so much gil they have nothing else to do with it.

If other players didn't panic at the first undercut, markets wouldn't crash unless supply dramatically increased from other than normal sources (looking at you, Quick Ventures) or demand died out.

If you know price activity for an item is unusual, sit tight or pull out for a few days. As long as supply/demand hasn't changed overall, the market will rebound.

[Iscah]

Uh, if i remember correctly all you do is relog to skip the cutscene. Technically, that is not an "Exploit". Personally they should make two separate roulette for the 50 MSQ where it divides players who want to watch cutscenes as opposed to those who don't want to.

You can argue the meaning of "exploit" but it's against the rules regardless. (And yes, it is exploiting the game's inability to resume the unskippable cutscene once the player logs back in.)

A split roulette would defeat the purpose of the roulette, which is to keep the queue moving for the sake of first-time players trying to get through the story. And if they did split it, the "no cutscenes" roulette wouldn't have the high rewards in the first place, because they are intended as compensation for your time. No cutscenes = nothing to compensate.

[Moonlite]

That's very much an exploit. That's a player knowingly engaging in an activity that will intentionally bypass an intended mechanic.

What they need to do is add a Trust style system to Praetorium and Castrum, then remove the MSQ roulette altogether. New characters can use the Trust or form a pre-made group with friends to run them. Other players have plenty of options to chose from to get XP/tomestones.

Yes I don't understand players. Friend got suspended from 11 for going afk on summoner and letting his pet kill anything that agroed. They said that was not how the game was suppose to work and don't do it. He did it anyways and suffered.


Why didn't they make trusts go to 8 man and then you would be bale to do all 8 man content as well. Also why do the trusts have to be some special NPCs, can't they just be some generic fill out the roster place holders till more special NPCs get added. If that is the reason why we didn't get 8 man trusts. Did anyone ever ask why trusts were limited to 4 man parties?