TBN doesn't require any MP to cast? Concern over Tank balancing.

[Noitems]

Was looking over the PVP job change notes and I remember during the live letter Yoshi-P was talking about DRK and how it will be changed.



Then I found this and it made me skeptical. That MP cost for TBN was in some way a balance for DRK, since you had to manage MP to see if it was able to be casted before bursting/be bursted. Now knowing that TBN is a free cast and DRK still retains it's HP recovery down skills, still seems like DRK is going to be the meta in terms of tanks.

With the removal of all the job specific peeling skills (Minus Holm because Holm) I'm not sure what the hell is going on with these changes.

As a guy who couldn't complete my ranked season due to an shoulder surgery (was about 3 wins from top 100), seeing changes like this are just making me nervous and I feel like I can't properly practice the mode since old mentalities clash against these new skill updates.

Thoughts?

[BloodRubyXII]

Thoughts? Aurora competes with it and in some ways is better and is also costless (like every other tank 15s external), the duration on healing down debuff has been lowered. It's literally the second day of the patch man you missed top 100 in a season where western servers have some of the lowest cutoffs ever which more or less gives an idea of how early on you got injured and how little you actually played. in contrast, bar boron on light broke his hand in early January @ like 1664 and was still safe even though he returned on the last night of dark week to finish 1700.

Like can you at least play before you try to initiate a discussion you're not going to understand anyway.

[Shinklet]

Gbr has a 15 second cd heal regeb
Pld has a 15 second cd mitigation shield
Drk has a 15 second shield
War has a 15 second..heal? Lifesteal?

It's pretty in line, DPS numbers not considered.

[Kaiche]

The other tanks team support skills dont cost anything so it makes sense with this change

[Noitems]

My concern is more so how we've taken away a thing that would help keep DRK in check (MP), made it free, and still have a job that contains HP Healing Reduction down.

I am happy for the other jobs because I was a dude who played GNB and wanted to keep playing it during my season, I'm just trying to wrap my head around taking the cost of casting a TBN, and still keeping the debuff (almost on tap and free on proc) that usually nullifies a skill like a Regen or Nascent. Yeah the time has been reduced, but I'm not sure that still covers the gap when the % is still the same. When War has to use an infuriate to get a similar result with a damage taken up buff.

I'm sorry if my wording came off as a total dunk on the other tanks, I'm more so confused.

[BloodRubyXII]

My concern is more so how we've taken away a thing that would help keep DRK in check (MP), made it free, and still have a job that contains HP Healing Reduction down.

I am happy for the other jobs because I was a dude who played GNB and wanted to keep playing it during my season, I'm just trying to wrap my head around taking the cost of casting a TBN, and still keeping the debuff (almost on tap and free on proc) that usually nullifies a skill like a Regen or Nascent. When War has to use an infuriate to get a similar result with a damage taken up buff.

I'm sorry if my wording came off as a total dunk on the other tanks, I'm more so confused.

Does DRK have an AoE shield? Does it have an offensive dispel? TBN needed MP to keep it in check because of how much better it was than any other tank external and how much better DRK's toolkit was as a whole with the longer Edge duration. With some attempt clearly made to bring the other tanks in line and give you genuine options, it's no longer needed and keeps things consistent whilst also allowing SOME degree of flavour to each tank (although obviously not nearly as much as previous). Again, just play the game, do some customs and complain again later once you've actually got some patch experience to provide some context and base to your argument.

[Kaiche]

DRK will still be meta imo but gnb will be a close 2nd with bow shock, gnb being the more supportive aggressive tank.

I still think WAR is reliant on its dps to be good or else what it brings is wasted and PLD has the potential to dish out large amounts of damage like 170k-200k and is one of the best picks for anti-tunnel