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    Just FYI, necromancy isn't only Voidsent possessing a corpse. There's also alchemy-based necromancy like what was used in the Ul'dah-Sil'dih war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeanneOrnitier View Post
    Just FYI, necromancy isn't only Voidsent possessing a corpse. There's also alchemy-based necromancy like what was used in the Ul'dah-Sil'dih war.
    Voidsent can still affect biological and chemical agents though with pretty much the same effect (although it's not causing undeath, the Tonberry plague was actually a Voidsent disease spread from a Voidsent summoned by the Mhach during the War of the Magi which they contained in a vase that they gifted to the unsuspecting Nymians - unearthing the vase results in the disease reappearing in the present day, and only by destroying the vase and the Voidsent trapped within is the plague eliminated for good.).

    So although the undead plague that Ul'dah unleashed on Sil'dih was alchemical in nature, it would not surprise me in the slightest if there was some kind of Voidsent influence in it's development too (it's all still very murky - the Hildibrand quests are not the best source of information given their deliberate irrevent and tongue-firmly-in-cheek tone).
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    Sure, the Sil'dih alchemy zombies might Voidsent influenced. But I've seen no indication that they are, so it's a baseless supposition.
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    Necromancy is frowned upon in Japan culturally and outright banned in China. As others have said, any reference to necromancy in FF has been in the form of a "voidmagic blue mage of sorts, not raising the dead. By all accounts, FF necromancer = Thaumaturge

    TLDR it ain't happening
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    Necromancy is frowned upon in Japan culturally and outright banned in China. As others have said, any reference to necromancy in FF has been in the form of a "voidmagic blue mage of sorts, not raising the dead. By all accounts, FF necromancer = Thaumaturge

    TLDR it ain't happening
    Palace of the Dead is straight up about a necromancer lich coming from another Square property (Tactics Ogre) and raising the dead. The lorebook also outright mentions necromancy and that ashkin arise through any means of outside magic, not necessarily just voidsent.

    Plus if it was banned in China, then Blizzard (partly owned by Tencent) wouldn't have brought the necromancer back for Diablo 3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    Palace of the Dead is straight up about a necromancer lich coming from another Square property (Tactics Ogre) and raising the dead. The lorebook also outright mentions necromancy and that ashkin arise through any means of outside magic, not necessarily just voidsent.

    Plus if it was banned in China, then Blizzard (partly owned by Tencent) wouldn't have brought the necromancer back for Diablo 3.
    Yes, and in that case the necromancer is depicted as the antagonist. There is a huge difference between having an evil necromancer that we have to defeat, or an evil undead dungeon for us to overcome, than promoting the practice by allowing it to be playable as a job.

    To me and you, there is seemingly little difference, but we have to think about the impact in more sensitive cultures.

    As for Diablo 3, I did some digging and I used the term "banned" harshly. Essentially, if we got necromancer, then XIV would be given the highest age rating in China, and it would need to be censored heavily.

    Here's something to look at: https://www.techinasia.com/diablo-3-china-censorship
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    Last edited by Lambdafish; 01-27-2020 at 02:53 AM.

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