Retainer Quick ventures

[Espritduo]

I'm reasonably sure there's no particular difference once you've cross the "can get rare items" threshold as there is no noticeable change in the message even when you have your retainer kitted out in near BIS items. The pool is determined mostly by (I think) the job of the retainer and their level. I won't state these as fact because I don't know for sure, but I've been getting the same things others have reported as "super rare" while just having the bare minimum to trigger the message. Also note it cares about ilevel, not appropriate stats (all my DoL retainers are wearing castoff DPS accessories and still get the rare message) .

Your item level is the only thing that matters for battle retainers, but gatherers solely look at your stats, with item level meaning nothing. Gathering is what determines the rare item threshold as well as the amount of items brought back from regular ventures. Perception increases the amount of HQ they bring back as well as reducing the amount of time it takes for them to do a venture. You saw no real effect from equipping battle accessories on your retainers because gathering accessories tend to not have any stats on them but GP.

Also, your level and class mean nothing for quick ventures, even if sometimes it feels like it does because your monk retainer brought back a pair of claws once or twice. Any level and any class retainer can bring back any "non-rare" item. And once you meet the requirements, the rare item pool is the same for any class as well.

[tdb]

Perception increases the amount of HQ they bring back as well as reducing the amount of time it takes for them to do a venture.

Incorrect. The time needed for mining/botany/fishing/hunting venture is determined solely by the level of the retainer. The base is 60 minutes, at 10 or more levels above the venture level it will take 50 minutes and at 20 or more levels above it will take 40 minutes.

[ServerCollaps]

the green gear is nice to get FC points and company seals that you can spend on crafting mats or for even more ventures.
Some housing items are worth a bit and the genereal purpose black + white colors should also sell for a lot

all in all, they give a kinda steady income (sometimes more, sometimes less)

[Krotoan]

Your item level is the only thing that matters for battle retainers, but gatherers solely look at your stats, with item level meaning nothing. Gathering is what determines the rare item threshold as well as the amount of items brought back from regular ventures. Perception increases the amount of HQ they bring back as well as reducing the amount of time it takes for them to do a venture.

For quick ventures? I have the most expensive NPC gear on all my DoL (I have one of each) but only my Fisher brings back "items most rare" and has the notification message that their gear is sufficient enough AND their gathering and perception is lower than the other two.

[Omymy]

He gets the point, I'm sure. But you do see certain people being contrary and argumentative in every single topic they enter, and if you talk sense they'll just find something else to complain about.

Yeah, i got the point, thats why i stop arguing.

About the rest of your personal appreciations, i can only say this:

[Espritduo]

For quick ventures? I have the most expensive NPC gear on all my DoL (I have one of each) but only my Fisher brings back "items most rare" and has the notification message that their gear is sufficient enough AND their gathering and perception is lower than the other two.

Because fisher lacks a proper offhand, its threshold for rare items (and other gathering related thresholds)is much lower than miner and botanist.