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    BLM Blizzard Fix

    Is it at all possible to just upgrade Blizzard I to Blizzard 3, and Have Blizzard II become Freeze? Blizzard I and II no longer seem to have the slow affect that they used to add; now it's just damage. Blizzard II cast on self at first is neat, but Freeze going to the target makes sense with the BLM progression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daespinoza View Post
    Is it at all possible to just upgrade Blizzard I to Blizzard 3, and Have Blizzard II become Freeze? Blizzard I and II no longer seem to have the slow affect that they used to add; now it's just damage. Blizzard II cast on self at first is neat, but Freeze going to the target makes sense with the BLM progression.

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    Blizzard 1 and 2 are still used as filler before you have Foul so they can't be so easily replaced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gruntler View Post
    Blizzard 1 and 2 are still used as filler before you have Foul so they can't be so easily replaced.
    I'd maybe accept blizzard 1 as a filler (but why would you when blizz 4 exists, shouldnt have any concern about dropping ui) but blizzard 2 10000% not when freeze exists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReiMakoto View Post
    I'd maybe accept blizzard 1 as a filler (but why would you when blizz 4 exists, shouldnt have any concern about dropping ui) but blizzard 2 10000% not when freeze exists.
    B2 exists before Freeze(35) just so it has a low-level equivalent; not that it has much use being a melee-range spell. Gets zero use and just clogs up the hotbar. Generally just remove Blizzard 2 at this point and leave BLM as is since they already have Fire AoE and Transpose all the way to 45 when they get their Fire III.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima View Post
    B2 exists before Freeze(35) just so it has a low-level equivalent; not that it has much use being a melee-range spell. Gets zero use and just clogs up the hotbar. Generally just remove Blizzard 2 at this point and leave BLM as is since they already have Fire AoE and Transpose all the way to 45 when they get their Fire III.
    Blizzard 2 is still used as filler before Freeze. Being melee-range doesn't matter, not using it is losing damage for no reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gruntler View Post
    Blizzard 2 is still used as filler before Freeze. Being melee-range doesn't matter, not using it is losing damage for no reason.
    So lets think about that for a second, blizzard 2 is only a dps gain at 4 targets and has the prequisite that you already have to be in melee range, having to move for it is very likely more of a loss than just casting another blizz 1, but also also, thunder is for all intents and purposes a 230 potency skill (+ more from thundercloud) so you would need 5 targets for a blizz 2 that you already have to be in melee range for to beat multidotting until your mana is back, which lets be honest, isn't a very large amount of time. I'd call that pretty worthless honestly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReiMakoto View Post
    So lets think about that for a second, blizzard 2 is only a dps gain at 4 targets and has the prequisite that you already have to be in melee range
    A normal amount of enemies in those dungeons, in a placement that isn't exactly difficult for other ranged, especially dancers and later on white mages and scholars...

    having to move for it is very likely more of a loss than just casting another blizz 1, but also also, thunder is for all intents and purposes a 230 potency skill (+ more from thundercloud) so you would need 5 targets for a blizz 2 that you already have to be in melee range for to beat multidotting until your mana is back, which lets be honest, isn't a very large amount of time. I'd call that pretty worthless honestly.
    Except, at those levels, you don't have blizz 3, so yeah, you're having to cast at least one blizzard spell to shorten that umbral ice time.
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    bliz2 can hit nearby things that you cannot see (useful for tagging s ranks sometimes) while freeze is targeted (and also uses more mp).
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    Well, then Blizz 2 can easily be upgrated to Frezze, since we don't use it after we learn Freeze.
    But Blizz 1 no, we need it if we somehow lose Enochian.
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    While I agree that Blizz 1 and Blizz 3 have different enough purposes to justify leaving them as separate skills, I would suggest having Blizz 1 changed into an instant cast, at least by the time you get Blizz 3. Perhaps as a replacement for Scathe altogether.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gruntler View Post
    Blizzard 2 is still used as filler before Freeze.
    Okay...?

    That doesn't disqualify the suggestion in the OP, for Blizz2 to upgrade into Freeze at the appropriate level.
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