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  1. #1
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    Gelesto's Avatar
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    Gelesto T'ki
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    Omega
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    Gladiator Lv 80

    BLU active spell set

    So I've really been enjoying the new BLU stuff with echoless/sync and the addition of mimicry has made it possible to play other roles more effectivly.

    As it stands BLU can currently save 5 sets of spells making it easy to change between roles or for different group styles like solo/dungeons/trials/raids, my only gripe is that changing to a new set does not award you with new action bars to set these spells to and each role only has a handful of spells they share between them and reconfiguring your bars each time is a bit inconvenient

    If you are like me and you have several action bars already set up globally across all jobs then you have very little to no room for extra bars for these additional spell sets and would make a world of difference in making switching BLU role for your groups requirements more streamline.

    What do you think and how has your experience been with changing roles for BLU? or have you just stuck to one role because of preference or because of the hastle?

    TL;DR - When changing BLU spell sets can we get new action bars for each set (currently 5 spell sets) for ease of role swapping
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    MartaDemireux's Avatar
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    Hiraeth Petrichor
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I put all shared abilities like swiftcast and bristle on my W crossbars and then bar 1 is tank specific, 2 is DPS specific and 3 is healer specific. That does the trick for me.

    My gripe about spell sets is that we can't rename them. I had to make my macros unmistakable in icon and number to stop myself from overwriting the wrong set.
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    Berteaux Braumegain
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I have four sets of spells just in case. One for dungeons, one for Raiding as a DPS, one for Healing, and one for Tanking. I use a macro to switch between them all, which works great... unless I recently used an OGCD spell. Then I have to wait for it to come off cooldown, which stinks.
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    You can maintain two sets of BLU bars by hiding one set on share or on another class.

    All bar numbers have a version for each class, each job, and share, regardless of the share setting for the bar. So if you're not sharing bars 1-4, you can invisibly store bar data to share 1 - share 4 and swap it to blu 1 - blu 4 via macro. If you are sharing bars 7-10, you can invisibly store bar data to blu 7 - blu 10, or arc 7 - arc 10, or any class/job 7-10.

    Example of swapping three hotbars by storing them on the shared bars of the same numbers (not sharing 1-4):
    Code:
    /hotbar copy blu 1 share 4
    /hotbar copy share 1 blu 1
    /hotbar copy share 4 share 1
    /hotbar copy blu 2 share 4
    /hotbar copy share 2 blu 2
    /hotbar copy share 4 share 2
    /hotbar copy blu 3 share 4
    /hotbar copy share 3 blu 3
    /hotbar copy share 4 share 3
    Another example, swapping bars by employing unused bars hidden by share bars (sharing 7-10):
    Code:
    /hotbar copy blu 1 blu 10
    /hotbar copy blu 7 blu 1
    /hotbar copy blu 10 blu 7
    /hotbar copy blu 2 blu 10
    /hotbar copy blu 8 blu 2
    /hotbar copy blu 10 blu 8
    /hotbar copy blu 3 blu 10
    /hotbar copy blu 9 blu 3
    /hotbar copy blu 10 blu 9
    Either of these macros can be used as a toggle to swap between two sets of bars.
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    Jkap_Goat's Avatar
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    Jkap Goat
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    Gilgamesh
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    Weaver Lv 80
    use /crosshotbar if your on controller

    I have my macros set on an unused class job like ROG,

    so for my healer set , for actions that i have on my hotbar for my healer BLU my macro is

    /crosshotbar copy blu 1 ROG 1
    /crosshotbar copy blu 2 ROG 2
    ----------------------------------------------------------

    and when i have my actions set, i can just pull out the macros with the action i have for healer and then i use this macro


    /bluespellbook preset 2
    /crosshotbar copy ROG 1 BLU 1
    /crosshotbar copy ROG 2 BLU 2

    my blue spell book is present 2 so this is just an example. you can use any unused class like conj, and make sure you have mimic off and any Cooldowns not used of you will not be able to use the macros
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    You can maintain two sets of BLU bars by hiding one set on share or on another class.

    All bar numbers have a version for each class, each job, and share, regardless of the share setting for the bar. So if you're not sharing bars 1-4, you can invisibly store bar data to share 1 - share 4 and swap it to blu 1 - blu 4 via macro. If you are sharing bars 7-10, you can invisibly store bar data to blu 7 - blu 10, or arc 7 - arc 10, or any class/job 7-10.

    Example of swapping three hotbars by storing them on the shared bars of the same numbers (not sharing 1-4):
    Code:
    /hotbar copy blu 1 share 4
    /hotbar copy share 1 blu 1
    /hotbar copy share 4 share 1
    /hotbar copy blu 2 share 4
    /hotbar copy share 2 blu 2
    /hotbar copy share 4 share 2
    /hotbar copy blu 3 share 4
    /hotbar copy share 3 blu 3
    /hotbar copy share 4 share 3
    Another example, swapping bars by employing unused bars hidden by share bars (sharing 7-10):
    Code:
    /hotbar copy blu 1 blu 10
    /hotbar copy blu 7 blu 1
    /hotbar copy blu 10 blu 7
    /hotbar copy blu 2 blu 10
    /hotbar copy blu 8 blu 2
    /hotbar copy blu 10 blu 8
    /hotbar copy blu 3 blu 10
    /hotbar copy blu 9 blu 3
    /hotbar copy blu 10 blu 9
    Either of these macros can be used as a toggle to swap between two sets of bars.
    Point is you shouldn't HAVE to rely on macros to basically play a job. If players have to resort to that, it shows poor game development.

    I agree with the OP, Cast bars should be saved to active set. Having to completely rearrange your bars every time you change sets get REALLY annoying.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
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    Esprit Libre
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    Mateus
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    Dancer Lv 90
    They should just let us attach hotbar setups to gearsets for BLU like they do with glamour plates. Would make it easy to switch spells AND switch gear between blue mage roles.
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    Rabbit Ackerman
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    Gilgamesh
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Point is you shouldn't HAVE to rely on macros to basically play a job.
    You don't have to. The macros don't save that much time. You don't have to use crafting macros either, or any other macros.

    Macros are there if you want to use them. None of them are required. Most of the are disadvantageous. You can't even use blu macros to change skill sets if you have a buff up, like say Mimicry for example.
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