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  1. #61
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    Nalien's Avatar
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    Taisai Jin
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    Twintania
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    Lancer Lv 64
    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    - As of the suggestion above, let BLU join Map hunting parties. The fights inside the portals have always been a joke, so having a BLU in the mix wouldn't change a lot.
    It already can. I've tested it, and it can probably even solo Aquapolis, which in my books makes it one of my favorite Jobs in the game now. I've not been able to solidly solo Aquapolis since Stormblood rolled in and ruined Scholar (lost a lot of DoTs, old Cleric's Stance, Bane got nerfed into the ground, etc.), so recapturing that experience with Blue Mage has been phenomenal. Now if only they didn't lock Dragonskin maps behind the same 18h allowance as Zonureskin maps... Let me buy Dragonskin maps with Allied Seals and Blue Mage would have an absolutely solid niche, IMO. Although I'd really still prefer to see Allied Seals replaced with its own Blue Mage currency, not too keen on the idea of Lv70 Blue Mage rolling out and being able to buy all the new stuff instantly again because I've had Allied Seals capped for so long.
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  2. #62
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    Nighthawky2010's Avatar
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    Nighthawky Mlmlxix
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    Midgardsormr
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Metallium View Post
    If I'm understanding what you are saying here... you can't progress the class until you clear up to stage 25. Which you don't have to do. You can just go straight into 25 without clearing the previous 24 stages(same with stage 30).
    I know u can do just do stage 25 unlocked TURNING OVER A BLUE LEAF. But why do i have to do it. That quests should not be tied to masked carnivale. IMO.
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    Last edited by Nighthawky2010; 12-24-2019 at 11:45 AM.

  3. #63
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    Saefinn's Avatar
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    Yesunova Hotgo
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    Balmung
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    Sage Lv 90
    Whilst I think there's plenty of room for improvements, I'm having a blast. I hate Masked Carnivale and I was disappointed with the first iteration of Blue Mage.

    But the group content and revitalised old content through Blue Mage parties, this, this is where I am having fun. My biggest concern is longevity of Blue Mage, I expect it'll be a job that'll become shelved again until something new comes out for it. Heck, maybe they could have trickled out the content for it like they do with patch cycles for stuff like Savage & 24 mans. Like this patch, we might only have First Coils, LotA & first Alex Savage and a reward for that. And then when we're nearing 6.0, roll out the Morbol mount (or a better mount if Morbol is used earlier) as a reward for completing all.

    At least this is an option to trickle out the incentive of clearing BLU content rather than people grind it all in one go.

    And I also have seen 2 main schools of thought
    - People who want to be able to solo content with it.
    - People who want to be able to group stuff.
    This is understandable. SE referred to it as Solo content and in the same announcement, said people have to group up. So both expectations have been set. Plus, it's an MMO and people like doing stuff with other people. But an MMO with a reasonable amount of solo stuff too, so either is reasonable.

    Although solo content is available through Masked Carnivale, I think Martyn should hook up with The Wandering Minstrel and give us proper soloable fights from content. It's all very well SE giving us OP jobs we can solo with, but it's not be too different from undersizing. But if they incorporated it into Masked Carnivale they'd be able to give tweaked versions of fights that work better with Blue Mage, particularly fights that require more than 1 person.

    My current wishlist for improvements:
    - Rewards that encourage persistence. Poetics are really easy to come by, Allied Seals will see their use gone once people have the rewards. People however, need level 80 currency to gear existing jobs too, so tagging level 80 currency in would help.
    - New Duty Finder options for Limited Jobs. Perhaps even Limited Job Roulettes. Limited Dungeon Roulette, Limited Alliance Roulette, Limited Raid Roulette (Coil, Alex Savage, Alex Normal). If it's too many roulettes, let them share a timer with their non-limited versions.
    - To make Duty Finder viable, they'd need to have a minimum requirement of specific skills learned. And Mimicry would need to be enforced, either by granting it at random in the roulette, or allow people to choose as they go in.
    - More DPS spells that flow into each other. I guess just to feel better for DPS players.
    - Less obnoxious Masked Carnivale, see my suggestions for it above. I don't mind a challenge or a gimmick, but many just feel obnoxious to do (they're not necessarily that hard either, I just don't enjoy them).
    - Continue to embrace old content and push people to continue doing them synced and as BLU parties, because this was a good decision. I was wholly disappointed with the original BLU release when people just undersized and leeched and then complained about the lack of content. The content is there and it is good content, just the incentive wasn't there.
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  4. #64
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    FoxyAreku's Avatar
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 90
    I have a dream that someday this game's dev team will stop making content that is dead on arrival and actually work on something substantial.

    Unfortunately, that day is not today.
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  5. #65
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nighthawky2010 View Post
    I know u can do just do stage 25 unlocked TURNING OVER A BLUE LEAF. But why do i have to do it. That quests should not be tied to masked carnivale. IMO.
    Because how does the game know you're good enough to continue? It can't tell unless you complete a solo instance. Stage 25 is your solo instance, testing everything you have learned and your ingenuity as a BLU.
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  6. #66
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    Arlo Nine-tails
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    I think the necessity from a daily roulette could be partially sated if they gave daily (instead of weekly) Marks. This would make sure that you'd always find a bunch of BLU groups rolling something.... Of course for this to really work they'd need to buff the gil and the other rewards, like a previous poster said. Poetics can be obtained everywhere and Allied Seals lose their usefulness after a while. Maybe a daily log entry for dungeon, trial and raids, respectively... and the hard ones (Extreme, or Savage) being kept as the weekly, with godly rewards.

    To my experience, the Blue Log party finder netted me roughly the same wait time of queueing as a regular dps for a roulette. If BLU got a roulette of its own, the wait times would be massive if there were no other BLU queueing as well, so it's just the same.
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  7. #67
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    Lambdafish's Avatar
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    I have a dream that someday this game's dev team will stop making content that is dead on arrival and actually work on something substantial.

    Unfortunately, that day is not today.
    Clearly you haven't been in PF. If the content was dead on arrival, people would struggle to complete BLU by the nature of how skills are acquired
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  8. #68
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    Absenthine Starfrost
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    While I enjoy certain aspects of BLU, where they faltered is not making a DF for them, instead of making a glorified PF. I also know that new people to the game (either from Christmas sales or in the future when they fix the ARR quests) will probably never be able to do it with the rewards pretty much a "one and done" sort, and no one will be willing to help. I already had difficulty finding groups for me and a friend after we waited a week.
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  9. #69
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    Berteaux Braumegain
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nighthawky2010 View Post
    I know u can do just do stage 25 unlocked TURNING OVER A BLUE LEAF. But why do i have to do it. That quests should not be tied to masked carnivale. IMO.
    Because it's a stand-in for the solo duty that comes at the end of every job quest?
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