Please let us apply glamour plates outside cities

[Avidria]

Really hope they can figure out a way to do this soon. For now the whole system is mostly just a fairly inconvenient extra storage box for me. Easier to just use glamour prisms and keep a few sets on me...

[Iscah]

So how is it different applying glamour plates than using glamour prism's and placing glamour old way on gear. It should be the exact same. So wouldn't using glamour prism's outside a city cause game not to run smoothly?

There are two possible core differences.

One is that being able to apply plates would require the plate data to be loaded and carried with you in the field - which it currently doesn't seem to do at all.

The other is that there might be some underlying issue with processing that many "apply glamour" instructions within such a short time, that has more of an issue in the field than in towns. I also read somewhere that there may have been an issue in the small-but-not-impossible scenario that an enemy killed you while it was running the 'macro' to apply all the glamours from the plate - so the system would receive something like "apply glamour A - apply glamour B - player has died - apply glamour C".

This is why don't use it for glamour its a worthless system and only is good for storing gear. Lets say you get better gear in dungeon and want place same glamour on it but guess what you can't because glamour plates only work in major city. So better to just keep glamour's you use stored with your gear and keep lots and lots of glamour prism's in your item bag.

I guess I'm old fashioned. I just stock up on glamour prisms and make sure to keep my armory chest relatively clean of junk that I don't need.

I do the same for the most part. I really, really dislike the glamour plate system in this game. It's just clunky and unpolished :( I had given it a shot with my DNC and MCH jobs, but gave up after I'd end up with half-glams due to changing outside of towns, and also not being able to update styles on the fly.

Really hope they can figure out a way to do this soon. For now the whole system is mostly just a fairly inconvenient extra storage box for me. Easier to just use glamour prisms and keep a few sets on me...

I really don't understand how you guys are using glamours if the plate system has no perceptible benefits to you. I was sold on it within seconds of trying it out, and seeing how easily I could restore newly-equipped gear to the appearance I wanted.

It seems like the theme of complaints is "the current plate system doesn't do everything an ideal system would do, therefore it has no value at all".

It's true you can't switch between two different jobs out in the field and have them take on individual appearances, but you can't do that with prisms either (unless you want to manually reglamour every time, which I doubt). The same restriction applies whether you use plates or prisms to apply your glamours.

It's true you can't instantly glamour a gear piece you picked up in a dungeon, but can with a prism - but would you really stand there and apply a glamour with a prism so you can equip it? Are your party members going to care more about your +1 stats, your appearance or the time they have to wait for you?

Plates let you store your favourite/currently-used designs and reapply them infinitely. The only possible downside is having to put the item in the dresser to apply it to the plate - and you can take it straight out again once you've done that. If you really want to, you can carry your glamour-appearance items with you for the occasions where you need to apply them out in the field, in addition to having the image stored on a plate.

You can only use them in cities, but while you're in a city they are far more efficient than applying individual prisms. You can even have multiple glamours for the same job, and switch back and forth on a whim - something you'd (or certainly I'd) never bother doing with prisms.

It also makes jewellery seem worthwhile glamouring. It never felt like an efficient use of time or prisms to do it manually for every new piece, but it's wonderful to have them on plates.

TL;DR: It doesn't do everything you want it to do, but where are the downsides to what it currently does? It gives a method of applying glamours that isn't as convenient as it could be, but is still faster and more convenient than solely using prisms.

[Avidria]

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I never said the system had no perceptible benefits to me. I said it's mostly inconvenient extra storage to me, which it is. I have to go to an inn room to use the glamour dresser (which I'd have little to no reason at all to do otherwise), which is the inconvenient part since I have to stop basically everything else to go fix the plates (unless I've completely missed something somewhere).

Most often I'm changing glamours on the fly as soon as I get new gear, which means a system that requires me to go back to a city to use it a lot less... useful. For that purpose. When I'm building a new glamour from scratch, yeah okay I'll be sitting in the city anyway, though honestly having to hop between like three different storage locations (retainer, glamour dresser, mb if I'm missing something...) is pretty darn inconvenient too. That's a separate annoyance though. :P

I use the plates, yeah. But mostly just to quickly clear off that ugly leveling gear look and then worry about my actual glamour later. The way the dresser works now just doesn't match up with my playstyle - I change sets and looks too often for a system that only allows a small handful of looks that you can only edit from one place to be especially valuable to me. If I could edit and apply plates elsewhere, though, it would be awesome. Even one of the two would be great.

Until then, prisms are easier and more convenient for me personally, and the biggest plus of the system so far is the storage space and the quick "WHOA my crafter's gear is ugly" fix.

[Tlamila]

TL;DR: It doesn't do everything you want it to do, but where are the downsides to what it currently does? It gives a method of applying glamours that isn't as convenient as it could be, but is still faster and more convenient than solely using prisms.

No, it's not more convenient. The only convenience is that it stores stuff. But it only has a bunch of plates, and you have to use plates. I don't like using premade outfits, I like to mix and match single pieces every time differently. With prisms you can do that. Also, plates are so very few that you can't even do one plate per class, let alone having many looks per class like I like to do.

[Saccharin]

S-E has already said more than once they applying glamour plates outside of cities would cause database and server problems. So, wanting a smoother experience for everyone else is "dumb"?

I'm surprised we can press forward with out causing server problems. Most companies would spend time fixing these server limitations rather than making excuses.

[DumdogsWorld]

I really don't understand how you guys are using glamours if the plate system has no perceptible benefits to you.

I don't hoard enough glamour items for storage space to be an issue. I only really play one combat job, after all. My armoury chest is squeaky clean. Plus I'm not really creative when it comes to glamours, so I tend to re-use appearences between classes.

From what I heard, the plate system uses less glamour prisms for re-use. But I have thousands of glamour prisms anyway, so why should I care?

Also, I never criticized the plate system. I simply stated that I am old-fashioned. Like, I don't own a cell phone IRL, but I don't criticize people that do.

[Hakuro89]

In a similar vein, craftable personal housing glam toilet when?