Rolling on 2B Outfit When You Have it Already.

[Kanitezz]

As for people still justifying getting like 5 coffers so some people get 0, just so you can save money on dyes, I ask you this: Why is it justifiable for you to have more than one while someone else gets none? Forget "oh it's rolling, so it's random, that makes it fair". Why do you get to have as many as you want while someone else has to keep losing that roll over and over and still not have the item they want? I often forget how selfish people on the forums are. It makes me want to roll on things I don't need just to even it out.

inb4 I get called 'cynical' again because everyone here is 14 and no one knows another 'negative' word

THIS post of yours isn't so much cynical as it is sensible. If someone already has the coffer they don't need to roll on another. It's really not that hard to understand. Nor does it require that much thought as to why they don't need to roll on another. I agree with you. Except for...

It makes me want to roll on things I don't need just to even it out.

Man... You had me in the first half not gonna lie...

[Iscah]

It is strange that such a sought-after non-tradeable item is obtainable more than once. That's a serious oversight on S-E's part and should be addressed immediately.

It's not that strange - it's just how items work in this game.

They can mark the coffer as unique, but once you've opened it, you no longer have the coffer. The game cannot "see" anything that prevents you from receiving it again.

It can say "you already have item X, so you can't have a second one" but it can't say "you have item Y so you're not allowed to have X".

Even if it could do that, you can just put the "unique" item in another inventory - saddlebag, retainers or the glamour dresser - and you can roll on it again because the game doesn't check for it there.

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Ultimately, even if some people do roll on it repeatedly, the overall number will go down over time. Even people who want two copies will get their two copies and (hopefully) stop rolling.

Some people will continue to roll mindlessly. Some will troll deliberately. But they still need to win the roll, and you have just as much chance of it. And the number of players who already have the outfit and don't roll again will still increase over time.

[linay]

I haven't read the entire thread, but one way this could be fixed is if FFXIV has an actual glamour collection. Just like the game can prevent you from rolling on untradeable minions that you've added to your collection, they could do that with glamour as well. And if it's too much work to put every gear in the collection, they could try starting with just actual level 1 glamour gears.

[SturmChurro]

Nooope.
Yeah, her outfit IS black. It's a nice black that's better than ashy sootblack by a good ways. But anytime you dye it any color the white parts turn black so that you can cosplay as 2P when dying it pure white.
So jet black gives the outfit the darkest black and it also has the benefit of turning the white parts of her outfit black (like any dye when applied to it) making it completely black save for the fleshy looking parts that I hope they change to be your character's skin color.

Yeah, I noticed this tonight when I was switching changing the boots on one of my outfits. It's not the exact same jet black, a bit more shiny. It's one of those things where it's pretty much close enough, but when you start mixing and matching pieces you start to notice it. I bought a black dye for my 2b boots.. Also, there is a nasty dirt texture on the boots.

This is a set I'll need multiple of, but for now i don't have the will or the need right now to need or farm for another. I don't even want to go into that raid if I don't have to. The players are what make it a nightmare.

They really do need to fix the skin color portion. I was wondering when I switched back to my pale veena, if she was just a bit too pale. It's still fine, close enough. Probably still horrible for dark keepers of the moon like yours especially, and anything else.

[hiedra]

I'd like to have multiples of the set but I can't personally justify rolling on something I already have when there are so many people still farming it. Either way, glam plates make it possible to have the same set dyed multiple colors at once.

I think that it would be good to have the set available via the calamity salvager, or at least change the way that the loot is handled.

[RyuSaarva]

I haven't read the entire thread, but one way this could be fixed is if FFXIV has an actual glamour collection. Just like the game can prevent you from rolling on untradeable minions that you've added to your collection, they could do that with glamour as well. And if it's too much work to put every gear in the collection, they could try starting with just actual level 1 glamour gears.

you can desynthesise glam and that was a very good way to level up before the death of desynthesis but I guess some people can still do that.