100% HQ macros with NQ mats

[Buuhuu]

Sorry, I'm not sure what you meant, since the arrangement of
/ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
/ac "Ingenuity" <wait.2>
/ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
/echo ShB 35 durab p2 (588cp) ended<se.4>

/ac "Innovation" <wait.2>
/ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
/ac "Observe" <wait.3>
/ac "Focused Synthesis" <wait.3>
would make the Innovation apply to the Focused Syn too. So I am not sure why this would bump up the craftsmanship requirement. I think I probably just need 2200-ish for it.

If Excellent procs before the Innov, then just manually press Byregot, and then Innov before finishing with the rest.

Well thats true, but this way you need to remember innovation again (same why I preferred using Ingenuity before the split).

As I said, the craft would be way over 100% if an excellent procs happens, so you can exclude Great Strides safely if this procs and don't have to remember anything else, besides finishing the synth.

It is not that big of a deal, but I like to keep it as simple and straight forward as possible. It is just my preference doing it that way

[Kuroka]

Well the Element-Stuff is good, but now that it costs 30 CP to just buff it to reasonable levels, it isn't that useful anymore. To reach full progress is rarely the problem. When doing rotations, it is mostly about how to squeeze the most quality out of it.

In most cases, when I tried to include the "Element"-Stuff into my rotation I either waste one Buff (Inguenity for example) to get all 3 uses out of it or just using 2 and with the CP spent there I often could do the same with less CP usage^^

If you have a rotation, where you utilize the Element-Skills, feel free to share, maybe I am wrong and there is a good use case for them when crafting endgame stuff

Only if youre german^^

/ac Einkehr <wait.3>
/ac Manipulation <wait.2>
/ac "Name der Elemente" <wait.2>
/ac EInfallsreichtum <wait.2>
/ac "Zeichen der Elemente" <wait.3>
/ac "Zeichen der Elemente" <wait.3>
/ac "Letzte Kontrolle" <wait.3>
/ac "Akribische Bearbeitung" <wait.3>
/ac "Nachhaltige Veredelung" <wait.3>
/ac "Nachhaltige Veredelung" <wait.3>
/ac Einfallsreichtum <wait.2>
/ac Innovation <wait.2>
/ac "Nachhaltige Veredelung" <wait.3>
/ac "Nachhaltige Veredelung" <wait.3>

/ac "Nachhaltige Veredelung" <wait.3>
/ac "Wiederherstellung" <wait.3>
/ac EInfallsreichtum <wait.2>
/ac Innovation <wait.2>
/ac "Basisveredelung" <wait.3>
/ac "Große Schritte" <wait.2>
/ac "Byregots Benediktion" <wait.3>
/ac  Bearbeiten <wait.3>

[Buuhuu]

Only if youre german^^

/ac Einkehr <wait.3>
/ac Manipulation <wait.2>
/ac "Name der Elemente" <wait.2>
/ac EInfallsreichtum <wait.2>
/ac "Zeichen der Elemente" <wait.3>
/ac "Zeichen der Elemente" <wait.3>
/ac "Letzte Kontrolle" <wait.3>
/ac "Akribische Bearbeitung" <wait.3>
/ac "Nachhaltige Veredelung" <wait.3>
/ac "Nachhaltige Veredelung" <wait.3>
/ac Einfallsreichtum <wait.2>
/ac Innovation <wait.2>
/ac "Nachhaltige Veredelung" <wait.3>
/ac "Nachhaltige Veredelung" <wait.3>

/ac "Nachhaltige Veredelung" <wait.3>
/ac "Wiederherstellung" <wait.3>
/ac EInfallsreichtum <wait.2>
/ac Innovation <wait.2>
/ac "Basisveredelung" <wait.3>
/ac "Große Schritte" <wait.2>
/ac "Byregots Benediktion" <wait.3>
/ac  Bearbeiten <wait.3>

Yes I am^^ (still answering in english, though)

Thanks for sharing and yeah, this is quite good aswell. Without re-arranging the skills too much it's not that easy to replace the elements in this rotation.

Honestly I forgot, that we were talking mostly of the 35 durab items, as I rarely hq-ing those ^^'
But if you compare your rotation with the one from caimie for example (same stats):

Yours: https://prnt.sc/ps07vo
Caimies: https://prnt.sc/ps07mk

It almost yields the same results (a little bit more progress on yours, quality is the same) but caimies' costs 18 cp less.
Delicate synthesis ("Akribische Bearbeitung") is really good, as it combines a normal (100%)-synth and a touch into one. And it is really expensive (especially on the 35 durab items), to maintain/replenish durability + maintaining buffs, that makes this skill so powerful.

And to "loose" 2 or 3 touches for those element skills together with the increased cp cost is the reason, I think, I always come up with cp less alternatives not using those :/

So I didn't meant that those skills are "useless", they are still strong. But I feel, that they are eating too many resources. But maybe I am a little bit too fussy about those things, I don't know^^

[Kuroka]

I upgraded my gear so i had to change that macro anyways, as i finished too early lol
-I still gotta check about the 70 durab stuff, bet gotta change that too...

[Espritduo]

With Ishgardian Restoration right around the corner I decided to be dumb and see how far I could take the current crafting system with extreme stats. By max melding all my gear and doing only reasonable melds on my MH/OH I managed to get 2544 Craft/2501 Control/538 CP base. With these stats I can get a near-dream rotation for the i450 gear that is 100% HQ from full NQ mats, no food, tea, or FC buffs AND uses Reuse. And is almost fully macro-able in 15 steps!



The first 15 steps finish the quality and can be macro'd. Once the macro finishes you just hit Reuse if it procs, then another Basic Synth to finish. I tried to get the whole thing to 15 steps while still using Reuse, but it just doesn't seem possible...

With these stats, my current i460 gear rotation looks like this, and uses NQ Tempura Platter.



You can slap Innovation after the first Ingenuity for a couple thousand extra quality to prevent any Poor touches mucking things up, but you will have to use Blood Bouillabaisse instead of Tempura Platter for the extra CP.

And just for funsies, I wanted to see how far I could take my stats given absolute maximum buffs. The resulting rotation is pretty damn powerful and might even be just fine for 3 or even 4-star, depending on how things shake out down the line.



This uses my base stats above, plus specialist stats, plus grade II FC buffs, plus HQ Mejillones al Ajillo and a Cunning tea of your choice to wash it all down.

I should of course stress that these are rotations designed to use basically max melded i460 gear and should not even be attempted if you are queasy about blowing up enough materia to cause the next Umbral Calamity.

[AbelArchaniEA]

Take it with a grain of salt. I'm not an expert on theorycraft for crafting but I do like macros and I did get some

2547 control requires BiS gear with a lot of control melds. I'm basically overmelded to the top minus weapon/off-hand. I'm using Blood Bouillabaisse. Specialist not required. Bad RNG on poor procs can screw you over.

Thanks to Liam_Harper from OF, he helped me on the 35 Durability macro.

Congratulations you learned how to copy, cut, and paste. Another pointless thread

[Espritduo]

Congratulations you learned how to copy, cut, and paste. Another pointless thread

Seeing as they came up with the rotation themselves and are simply sharing it with the forums, the only thing they're doing is pasting what they've learned through actual crafting know-how. The only thing pointless here is your post and attitude.