People want challenging end game content and

[Aomine1992]

Huh? I haven’t seen a hades party over 450 yet and most have no requirement, phase one can be completed in literally 3-5 pulls. Average savage player is 470 btw but yea don’t be silly also look at the duty minimum Ilvl people usually aim a bit higher then that....

[Rasikko]

I don't have 460, but I could literally become 460 if I spent the 2000 tomes I have, for my RDM. At this point people should probably have at least 1 class in full 460, to be honest.

I will have all i470 but my weapon will still be i440, and later crafted 450 when prices drop a bit, or maybe something better through crafting, I don'tknow. I don't do savage content.. and that Hades Extreme or whatever, sounds like need a static :/. I just wait for next tome tier to get a weapon, or a dungeon wep stronger than my current, (not from Grand Cosmos because no weapons drop from it).

[Awful]

I have absolutely nothing against blind prog at all and I prefer it. The problem is even some blind fresh prog are being set at ilvl 460+ when EX itself is being set at requiring i450 BY THE DEV. This was on Primal DC. There were several.
It's your choice to cheese and blaze through it with savage gear with your own static circle for all I care. You can be whatever high ilvl you want to be in pug, but pugs setting it beyond default requirement is just stupid. Especially for content not even a week old. What ever, some people are now thinking you need +10 more ilvl to do contents like this. It's sad.

Yeah I am also on Primal and saw those guess what I did? Made my own. Went into blind prog with the ilvl at 455 had 0 issues with anyone since they respected the content and we got far, if you want something done instead of coming to the forums make your own group.

And there's nothing wrong with ilvl 460 gear you can set it to whatever you want just be prepared and invest the time 460 is perfectly reasonable if you've been playing since the 460 tome gear release you should at least be close to 460 it just requires you logging in and doing expert once a day or doing other activities it's not asking a lot.

[Vidu]

I will have all i470 but my weapon will still be i440, and later crafted 450 when prices drop a bit, or maybe something better through crafting, I don'tknow. I don't do savage content.. and that Hades Extreme or whatever, sounds like need a static :/. I just wait for next tome tier to get a weapon, or a dungeon wep stronger than my current, (not from Grand Cosmos because no weapons drop from it).

Are you aware that you can get the 460 tomestone-weapon by collecting weekly tokens from E4 NM?

I think its been reduced to needing 4 tokens now, so... 4 weeks of E4 NM - not Savage, just the normal mode! - and 1000 tomestones and you got yoruself an ilvl 460 weapon.