Crafting Changes Kill Crafting

[AbelArchaniEA]

<hmm title should have been: "From an Omnicrafter" but my brain's raging fury typed what is actually there>

Okay who thought any of this was good? Seriously?

1. No steady hand + No reclaim = Rapid Syn + Hasty Touch put in trash can. No way am I going to risk losing potentially HOURS of material gathering on a 50%-60% success rate with a ZERO chance of getting my mats back on a RNG slap across the face.

2. You guys made this MORE macro friendly, not less. Most things are success near guaranteed, those that aren't are trash canned, plus no claim. What? HQ gathering items into crafting mats was a pain where rapid syn and hasty touch were needed, now that is not going to happen. Still trying to figure out how to do that.

3. LOL that rapid syn trait bumping the advancement to 500% but still keeping it a 50% chance of working. You know what this translates to? SE slapping you in the face or LOLing at you for actually using rapid syn instead of trash canning it.

4. Less bloat is wonderful, however the rapid syn + hasty touch thing is lemminged off the cliff (just go ahead and remove these skills you will see NOONE using them as they are).

*5. And no comfort zone :/

{im glad im not a low level crafter. I imagine crafting HQ for GC or rowen is a freakin nightmare with skill cp being the same and CP only getting good as your level goes up. I remember using that 50+ free stack skill for free +40 completion in an effort to get more CP from comfort zone repeated usages. well no more for that. did that until level 70. glad Im 80 havent done that in ShB. rip you low levels}

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Patient touch is also 50% so no extra stacks of inner quiet. No rapid syn at 300%, so I'm stuck with 120% or 150%. No master mend 2 for +60 duribility for 92 (got 30 for 88).

So how is making crafting more accessible? Note new items have quality of 44,450 and completion of 6700+. It would normally take three+ rapid synths to get the lesser 5500s. So now its 8? So how do you get inner quiet to 11 stacks let alone quality to 100%? 5.0 I could get HQ with all NQ is I was incredibly lucky, adn even then I used 50% mats. Now I wouldn't even try to HQ without 100% HQ mats, and I'm not even sure I want to try and risk losing 1+ million in mats...

Someone prove me wrong, list how you HQ with these changes?

You are assuming crafting was ever a challenge or was alive

[Blokeymon]

This thread.

What I'm seeing: "Changes have killed crafting:

What I'm hearing:" I got a friend to craft me all the items needed to leveboost my crafters so now I don't really know how crafting actually works, and the friend who made me all my crafting macros has taken a break, and I don't understand the new skill tooltips enough to write my own, so I'll just blame SE instead because clearly it's THEIR fault."

Also, what is Manipulation, Waste Not, and Preparatory Touch?

[Jojoya]

No you lost cross skills, you lost skill that increase's quality 150% now need good to use it. Better look again because my hot bar had over 12 skills blacked out and we now don't have. They cut total skill by half of what we had.

You probably should look at your spellbook again. You still have:

Hasty Touch
Rapid Synthesis
Tricks of the Trade
Ingenuity
Waste Not
Innovation
Waste Not II
Muscle Memory
Careful Synthesis

We lost Comfort Zone, Rumination and Ingenuity II. Loss of Comfort Zone is offset by most actions getting success rate boosted to 100% so we are no longer spending CP on Steady Hand. Rumination was rarely useful except at lower levels when you didn't have Byregot's Blessing to consume your Inner Quiet stacks. Ingenuity II was no more effective at 80 than Ingenuity so no one was using it (I hope).

If you were using Advanced Touch on end game crafts, you were wasting CP that could have been used better.

What we mainly lost was the unnecessary button bloat filling up bars with things we shouldn't have been using for end game crafts in the first place. Take this as an opportunity to review the actions we have and refine your crafting techniques because I assure you than end game crafting is more than possible with the actions we now have. If it wasn't, you wouldn't be seeing all that HQ Facet gear hitting the MB.

[ErryK]

or don't use macros for crafting at all....cheaters lol

If it was cheating, it wouldn't be available as an option by the devs.

[EZ5902]

This thread.

What I'm seeing: "Changes have killed crafting:

What I'm hearing:" I got a friend to craft me all the items needed to leveboost my crafters so now I don't really know how crafting actually works, and the friend who made me all my crafting macros has taken a break, and I don't understand the new skill tooltips enough to write my own, so I'll just blame SE instead because clearly it's THEIR fault."

Also, what is Manipulation, Waste Not, and Preparatory Touch?

lol, so true.

Nothing wrong with crafting as it stands now as this person pointed out:

You probably should look at your spellbook again. You still have:

Hasty Touch
Rapid Synthesis
Tricks of the Trade
Ingenuity
Waste Not
Innovation
Waste Not II
Muscle Memory
Careful Synthesis

We lost Comfort Zone, Rumination and Ingenuity II. Loss of Comfort Zone is offset by most actions getting success rate boosted to 100% so we are no longer spending CP on Steady Hand. Rumination was rarely useful except at lower levels when you didn't have Byregot's Blessing to consume your Inner Quiet stacks. Ingenuity II was no more effective at 80 than Ingenuity so no one was using it (I hope).

If you were using Advanced Touch on end game crafts, you were wasting CP that could have been used better.

What we mainly lost was the unnecessary button bloat filling up bars with things we shouldn't have been using for end game crafts in the first place. Take this as an opportunity to review the actions we have and refine your crafting techniques because I assure you than end game crafting is more than possible with the actions we now have. If it wasn't, you wouldn't be seeing all that HQ Facet gear hitting the MB.

[Zildaren]

Reclaim was useful! No one will take any chances on rotations and there is no recovery for human error on expensive crafts.

[EZ5902]

Reclaim was useful! No one will take any chances on rotations and there is no recovery for human error on expensive crafts.

"was" been the correct word when hasty was a thing, after we got new touch actions, both hasty and reclaim became useless because crafts were guaranteed 100% complete.